Water in passenger pan problem
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Water in passenger pan problem
Hi guys,
96 Convertible lots of rain now there is an 1" of water in passenger pan/footwell. It's seems to be clear - maybe with slight brown color but not coolant I think.
Possible leak sources?
Doesn't seem to be coming from the heater, front firewall surface is dry..
What to check?
Thank you.
96 Convertible lots of rain now there is an 1" of water in passenger pan/footwell. It's seems to be clear - maybe with slight brown color but not coolant I think.
Possible leak sources?
Doesn't seem to be coming from the heater, front firewall surface is dry..
What to check?
Thank you.
Burning Brakes
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From: Waco TX
Drain tubes that go from the water collection area at the bottom of the winshield. Had the same problem with my 94.
You are probably gonna have to take the passenger's side "gill" off to get to the rubber hose. Mine was clogged with mud, twigs, leaves, etc. Amazing how much stuff came out. There are supposedly 2 or 3 of these rubber drain tubes. I have only cleaned out the one on my passenger's side.
You are probably gonna have to take the passenger's side "gill" off to get to the rubber hose. Mine was clogged with mud, twigs, leaves, etc. Amazing how much stuff came out. There are supposedly 2 or 3 of these rubber drain tubes. I have only cleaned out the one on my passenger's side.
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Drain tubes that go from the water collection area at the bottom of the winshield. Had the same problem with my 94.
You are probably gonna have to take the passenger's side "gill" off to get to the rubber hose. Mine was clogged with mud, twigs, leaves, etc. Amazing how much stuff came out. There are supposedly 2 or 3 of these rubber drain tubes. I have only cleaned out the one on my passenger's side.
You are probably gonna have to take the passenger's side "gill" off to get to the rubber hose. Mine was clogged with mud, twigs, leaves, etc. Amazing how much stuff came out. There are supposedly 2 or 3 of these rubber drain tubes. I have only cleaned out the one on my passenger's side.
5th Gear
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Can someone please help me understand where the drain hose is on the passenger side. I am apparently blind because I cannot find it.
Same car as the OP, 96 convertible. Water in the passenger floorboard after rain. I removed the mesh grill under the passenger side windshield wiper and the plate with two screws just beside it. Looking into the cavity, I cannot see a drain hole which would have a hose. Its easy to see the ones on the driver's side.
If I pour water into the cavity under the wipers, the water pours down the inside of body (in front of the door). I can still not figure out where the hose/drain hole is on the passenger side. I'm going crazy with this. Any and all help may prevent harakiri.
Same car as the OP, 96 convertible. Water in the passenger floorboard after rain. I removed the mesh grill under the passenger side windshield wiper and the plate with two screws just beside it. Looking into the cavity, I cannot see a drain hole which would have a hose. Its easy to see the ones on the driver's side.
If I pour water into the cavity under the wipers, the water pours down the inside of body (in front of the door). I can still not figure out where the hose/drain hole is on the passenger side. I'm going crazy with this. Any and all help may prevent harakiri.
Le Mans Master
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Can someone please help me understand where the drain hose is on the passenger side. I am apparently blind because I cannot find it.
Same car as the OP, 96 convertible. Water in the passenger floorboard after rain. I removed the mesh grill under the passenger side windshield wiper and the plate with two screws just beside it. Looking into the cavity, I cannot see a drain hole which would have a hose. Its easy to see the ones on the driver's side.
If I pour water into the cavity under the wipers, the water pours down the inside of body (in front of the door). I can still not figure out where the hose/drain hole is on the passenger side. I'm going crazy with this. Any and all help may prevent harakiri.
Same car as the OP, 96 convertible. Water in the passenger floorboard after rain. I removed the mesh grill under the passenger side windshield wiper and the plate with two screws just beside it. Looking into the cavity, I cannot see a drain hole which would have a hose. Its easy to see the ones on the driver's side.
If I pour water into the cavity under the wipers, the water pours down the inside of body (in front of the door). I can still not figure out where the hose/drain hole is on the passenger side. I'm going crazy with this. Any and all help may prevent harakiri.
It's a common problem and a very easy fix. But I'd strongly recommend you remove the seat and the carpet from the floorpan on that side and get it dried out ASAP before the mildew gremlins get started. There are only four nuts that hold the seat in, and it's not hard to remove it and the carpet. You'll need to sort of work the carpet out from under the adjacent carpeting panels on the center console, and the speaker grille on the other side, but it's not very hard to do. Use a shopvac to suck out as much of the water as you can first (after removing the seat), then yank the carpet and lay it out to dry in front of a dehumidifier, if possible. Be sure to provide adequate airflow above and below it while it's drying. A fan to stir the air will also help.
Good luck with it.
Live well,
SJW
Melting Slicks
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From: folsom california
same problem, 96 coupe; there's three (four?)drain tubes approximately 1/2 inch diameter in the cowl area; all were plugged to some extent; these I was able to clear from outside the car. Later, when I removed the passenger side gill I found another drain tube from the bottom of the A/C plenum; this tube is more than an inch in diameter and was completely clogged.
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If the floor got wet under the carpet you probably should remove the carpet to dry everything better. There is a rubber covered jute mat that covers the transmission tunnel and it will wick water up from the footwell and won't dry because the carpet is rubberized underneath.
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What you should also do is pull the blower motor and look inside to make sure all of that is clear. I believe you can see a drain hole if you look through the resistor pack hole at the top of the EVAP box.
Another place you can get water is if the sealant inbetween the hood seal has failed. It could let water get in the EVAP box which will get into the car.
I had several places where water was pouring in past the hood seal into the engine bay when I ran water on the windshield. So, I pulled the hood seal off. Cleaned all the old sealant off. Bolted it back on, and resealed it with Urethane.
Another place you can get water is if the sealant inbetween the hood seal has failed. It could let water get in the EVAP box which will get into the car.
I had several places where water was pouring in past the hood seal into the engine bay when I ran water on the windshield. So, I pulled the hood seal off. Cleaned all the old sealant off. Bolted it back on, and resealed it with Urethane.
Burning Brakes
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If the floor got wet under the carpet you probably should remove the carpet to dry everything better. There is a rubber covered jute mat that covers the transmission tunnel and it will wick water up from the footwell and won't dry because the carpet is rubberized underneath.
Also mold can form & become smelly.Check coolant level to be sure it is not coolant leaking.Get a small dehumidifier & put inside vehicle(assuming you have a garage) & have windows just cracked to allow heat to escape.After everything is dry,check weatherstripping for rips,tears,being worn(flatness),missing,etc.Did water leak inside vehicle when washing car?It leaks in mine even though its a small amount.Any evidence that water is coming from above dash?-dried water marks on door panel,dash,etc?
Burning Brakes
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clogged drains
Is there any way to use a piece of string trimmer line to clear the blockage? I've used it on other cars with sunroofs, and it works great.
I'm in the process of buying a 93 vert, and I'm taking copious notes.
Thanks!
I'm in the process of buying a 93 vert, and I'm taking copious notes.
Thanks!
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Best thing is to check the 3 drain tubes. And make sure the EVAP box isn't clogged. You should see a puddle on the ground after a while with the car running and AC on.
Another thing is pull the kick panels. And run water all over the windshield and look to see if you can see any water trails running down the firewall. Also check the fresh air door area.
Another place you can get water is if it is getting past the windshield. Which would drip down from the A pillar plastic trim. Or some have reported the bottom of the windshield wasn't sealed all the way, letting water in from there.
Pro
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My drivers side is clogged, anybody know how to get the tube out?
I could not pull it out from underneath the cowl and could not get my hand to it from above either, tube seems to end right above the rocker panel.
Is the rocker panel easy to get off?
Thanks
I could not pull it out from underneath the cowl and could not get my hand to it from above either, tube seems to end right above the rocker panel.
Is the rocker panel easy to get off?
Thanks
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Are you talking about the drain tube behind the battery coming down from the cowl? You should be able to squeeze it to get the crude out unless a large object is in it. Might could try sticking a pipe cleaner up the tube.
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From: USA. Northern Virginia
Drain tubes that go from the water collection area at the bottom of the winshield. Had the same problem with my 94.
You are probably gonna have to take the passenger's side "gill" off to get to the rubber hose. Mine was clogged with mud, twigs, leaves, etc. Amazing how much stuff came out. There are supposedly 2 or 3 of these rubber drain tubes. I have only cleaned out the one on my passenger's side.
You are probably gonna have to take the passenger's side "gill" off to get to the rubber hose. Mine was clogged with mud, twigs, leaves, etc. Amazing how much stuff came out. There are supposedly 2 or 3 of these rubber drain tubes. I have only cleaned out the one on my passenger's side.
The tubes are not open at the bottom like a hose, they have a flap to keep bugs out.
Good luck
Melting Slicks
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From: Gainesville FL
Arround the rear decklid on both sides of the car is a trough with a drain hole. If it gets cloggedwater will overflow to the inside of the car behind the seats ... which will flood the floorpan. Doesn't look likely but it's true. You can only see the drains with the top down. (and deck lid open)
Had it happen.
Had it happen.
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