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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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Will 112 octane hurt cats?
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Will 112 octane hurt cats?
If it is leaded (which I believe anything over 100 is) yes it will clog the cats.
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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Depends on the company, Sunoco has some 104 UL and Torco 108 UL as examples. Just out of curiosity, why waste the high cost by running it?
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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Wasn't by choice really. I went to the track with a little less than I should have. In order to make it home I put two gallons in. Now I'm getting a Code 430 on bank 2 low efficiency. Guess I'm going to have to buy a cat.
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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You were low in gas and put 2 gal of race fuel in the vette. I'm no expert but, the C5 owners I know with S/C mix 5 gal of race fuel then fill up with regular gas.

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Originally Posted by Weav's Vet
Wasn't by choice really. I went to the track with a little less than I should have. In order to make it home I put two gallons in. Now I'm getting a Code 430 on bank 2 low efficiency. Guess I'm going to have to buy a cat.
just take the cats off and knock the honeycombs out and reinstall them, i did mine and it flows much better. if you have pollution restictions in your state then you are SOL you will have to get one.
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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I'm not sure all what that codes means, maybe just the O2 got gummed up? O2's do not like lead either. I highly doubt your cat is damaged from just that. I've seen O2's cleaned with a torch but if it's old I'd just replace it.
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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I dont think 2 gal would have killed your cats mixed with 91 but it might have damaged your o2 sensors. I used half Trick 101 half 91 everyday with my 350z. The leaded gas will kill your cats and o2 sensors. Trick 101 is unleaded too. Higher octain fuel burns cooler and helps prevent detonation. Usually only beneficial when tuned for it, for FI or high compression motors.
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I'd run that tank out and then a tank or 2 of 93 unleaded. It may clear up on its own.
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Default Dilute it with 87 octane unleaded

A couple of summers ago when we had a gasoline shortage here in Charlotte I was almost out of gas and could not find anything but race fuel. Sooooo, I put 3-4 gals in so I could get home.

Check engine light went on immediately and the car ran like s**t; temps also went up. The car had much reduced power. I soon found some 87 octane unleaded and filled the tank. The check engine light went out and the car ran like normal. I subsequently changed out the O2 sensor just in case. Since then (2 years later) the car and cat seem to be fine.

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I have a buddy with (not bragging for him) making a point
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ETC. he does not have emmissions to pass, he has always run 110 in them, and the CATS are totally ruined from it.

The reason I mentioned some of his cars, is that it happened to all makes and models he has. Iwould not reccomend it alot if you have to pass, or buy the SS Straights for racing, and put the cats back on when needed.

I personally used to mix it in my 5.0's, and I liked how they ran, they were not totally stock though.
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If the 112-octane fuel is leaded it could end up ruining your cats and O2 sensors. I usually run VP’s StreetBlaze 100.
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Originally Posted by pmihaltian
A couple of summers ago when we had a gasoline shortage here in Charlotte I was almost out of gas and could not find anything but race fuel. Sooooo, I put 3-4 gals in so I could get home.

Check engine light went on immediately and the car ran like s**t; temps also went up. The car had much reduced power. I soon found some 87 octane unleaded and filled the tank. The check engine light went out and the car ran like normal. I subsequently changed out the O2 sensor just in case. Since then (2 years later) the car and cat seem to be fine.

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Yall had it rough up there with gas! Not as bad here though.

I filled the tank and got rid of the code. So far so good.

That's on the back burner for now as I'm starting a cam swap this weekend. I'll deal with it if it pops up again.

Thanks for all the input guys!
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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The lead doesn't clog the cat. It poisons the catalyst.


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If it is leaded (which I believe anything over 100 is) yes it will clog the cats.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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Definitely will cause O2 sensor damage. O2's tell the ecu if the cats are working, so it seems likely the O2 has been affected.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 07:39 PM
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Only the 96 "tells the ECU if the Cats are working."That is the function of the post cat sensors.

On all C4s, the pre cat O2s are used by the ECM/PCM to adjust the air/fuel mixture.

That is why you likely will not know on a pre 96 if the cats are working or not.

The OP is getting an OBDII code from the post cat O2s that shows one or more is not doing it's job.


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Definitely will cause O2 sensor damage. O2's tell the ecu if the cats are working, so it seems likely the O2 has been affected.
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