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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 08:22 PM
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Default Leaking red (transmission?) fluid from LT4 :(

We knew it had a little leak when we bought it. Of course when a 6 year old car sits there for that long and only gets 8k miles worth of use it is gonna leak. Well, I checked our garage today, and there is some red fluid on the ground. A small amount, but still clearly there. I THINK that it is transmission fluid. My dad is out of town and wont be back till Friday and he is the mechanical Genius. But wanted to get some advice from ya'll first just in case he cant think of it. Wanted to know where to check for leak, how to check, possible reasoning of where leak is?

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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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Only red fluid in you car should be DexCool antifreeze. Trans fluid is oil color.

See if you can find the source : hoses, radiator, and such.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 08:38 PM
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Only red fluid in you car should be DexCool antifreeze. Trans fluid is oil color.

See if you can find the source : hoses, radiator, and such.
I shoulda known that. DexCool is orange, so used DexCool should be red (duh). Thanks Pete. I was planning on flushing the coolant anyways to clean the radiator, plus it needed to be flushed (past 5 yrs according to owners manual), and to install thermostat/bypass coolant.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 09:09 PM
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The ZF6 uses a synthetic lube... I think it might be redish, also...

What you CAN do... get some news papers and tape them to a clean part of the floor. park the car on top. once parked, take the tape and line it up to the center of the car, and the center of each front wheels.

this gives you some reference points when you remove the car.

check for stains and see what you find... if the leak is to the front, it is coolant or oil. to the rear, oil or transmission, and so on.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 09:30 PM
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The ZF6 uses a synthetic lube... I think it might be redish, also...
Stock oil in the ZF is neither synthetic nor red.

Now aftermarket? Don't know.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 09:32 PM
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All thats is in the ZF is rebottled 5w-30 oil. Read the GM bottle that it comes it. Just regular old dino oil.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 09:54 PM
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Default Re: Leaking red (transmission?) fluid from LT4 :( (Andy1983)

That would be your water pump leaking most likely.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 09:59 PM
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All thats is in the ZF is rebottled 5w-30 oil. Read the GM bottle that it comes it. Just regular old dino oil.
That would be wrong. It's GL-3 gear oil. Those that think this is engine oil could end up ruining a very expensive transmission. Ever smell it, additives that smell like that don't come in engine oil. All that is 5W-30 is not engine oil.

What does that have to do with it not being red?
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Those that think this is engine oil could end up ruining a very expensive transmission.
Actually, the BMW 10W-60 oil that many people use in their ZF is also used in the engine of the M5.
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Agree, ZF approved the Castrol engine oil, don't know what's in it. But I was speaking of the 1052931 factory fill oil, it stinks of gear oil. I dunno, it takes the right mix of friction to lube a trans and keep the syncro's healthy and functional. I was going to try it, but somebody said it made the trans feel "notchy" so I went with the GM stuff. Anyway the Castrol is not red either, I don't think? :D


Back to the leak, that's a good idea to place paper under the car and find the general location. Use while paper and it will be easier see what it is. One thing is a lot of times coolant leaks only show up when a hot car cools off or a cool car warms up, can be hard to find. Hope it's not the water pump.

If that coolant has never been flushed it's way beyond it's useful life.
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I was going to try it, but somebody said it made the trans feel "notchy" so I went with the GM stuff.
Yeah, I've heard the same about the Redline. The Castrol is some sort of synthetic, not sure what it's composed of. Either way, it's task number 1 on my list as soon as the snow melts :cheers:


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What about differential fluid? Some of those are red.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 11:06 PM
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My diff fluid is BLUE ! :crazy:
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 11:19 PM
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What about differential fluid? Some of those are red.
It came from Engine compartment

One thing is a lot of times coolant leaks only show up when a hot car cools off or a cool car warms up, can be hard to find. Hope it's not the water pump.

If that coolant has never been flushed it's way beyond it's useful life.
It only happened when I started it up after about a 2 day sit. Just this one time (hasnt happened since I had it). I am guessing it is the coolant. IF it is the water pump, at least that gives me an excuse to get a Meziere :D The Coolant hasnt been flushed, and is way beyond its life. But that wouldnt make a leak I dont think... would it?
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 11:28 PM
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Power steering possibly?

On the dexcool note - my Lt4 seems to leak a little out of the cap of the overflow tank during "spirited" maneuvers (i.e. autocrossing).

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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 11:40 PM
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Just smell the fluid. Tranny oil and coolant both have distinct scents.
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All thats is in the ZF is rebottled 5w-30 oil.
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That would be wrong. It's GL-3 gear oil.
At least in the early ZF6's, it really was plain old Texaco 5w-30 motor oil, I read a tech paper about it a few years back. Turned out that it happened to work best, so that's what they went with. Strange but true.
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Pete - are you running Redline Shockproof Gear Lube??? That is some nasty looking stuff.

As for the ZFs, they did come with 5W30 Texaco in a GM bottle.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 05:58 AM
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Andy1983,

I just had the radiator reworked twice on my LT4. The first leak was a bad core to tank seal on the passenger side of the radiator. After a couple of days of sitting it would leak a small amout out.

The second rework was from a stress crack in the plastic passenger side tank. During the first rework I noticed the passenger side tank looked like it was poorly molded. It just didn't seem to fit right.

To test the system cold I pulled the over flow vent and applied 8 psi of air to pressurize the system. The spewing sound and gushing water indicated a leak.

If your not sure if its oil or A-freeze take a small piece of clean white paper and soak it up with the mystery fluid. The paper will turn the true color of the fluid. Next hold the paper under the water faucet and gently rub it. A-freeze with wash away and the paper will come apart. Oil will stay in the paper and hold it together.

Buck.
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At least in the early ZF6's, it really was plain old Texaco 5w-30 motor oil, I read a tech paper about it a few years back. Turned out that it happened to work best, so that's what they went with. Strange but true.
Not true to my knowledge. This is a rumor that has gone on and on because the GM fill says 5W-30 on the bottle, so some ignorant mechanics determined that it was engine oil. Not true, special mix perhaps by Texaco, but contains a brew of additives you would not want in your engine! And is rated as GL3.


Pete - are you running Redline Shockproof Gear Lube??? That is some nasty looking stuff.
No, in diff Amsoil 2000 75W-90 (blue) left over from a truck project. GM 1052931 (amber) in ZF and Mobil 1 (amber) in engine right now. Valvoline PS fluid (clear). Standard green coolant and distilled water. Ford HP DOT 3 brake fluid (clear).

On the DexCool, it seems to be particulary unforgiving of air in the system (as may be caused from a leak). My point about the age is that regardless of the source of the leak, this coolant should be flushed.

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