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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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Neighbor bought a C4 on craigslist and trying to help him out. The local shop claims it has a "cracked head gasket" but I want to see for myself.
The oil is clean and smells like oil, the coolant is full and smells like antifreeze, the car runs fine

How can I test for a blown head gasket??
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1. Compression test
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The shop says they did a compression test but if you have 1 cylinder low how do you determine head gasket versus rings or valves?

The C4 owner is not mechanically inclined at all,
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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pressurize the cooling system
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Definitive test is to test for disolved exhaust gasses in the coolant.
Seems to be a special order for the kit from the standard autoparts stores.

What year is the car?
What is it doing to make anyone suspect there is a problem?
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Originally Posted by pr0zac
pressurize the cooling system
And keep the pressure on for a few minutes at least, watching for any sign of dropping. Also you could watch the flow of water in the radiator, if there's a lot of bubbles then compression is getting into the system.
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Originally Posted by pr0zac
pressurize the cooling system
Thats what I was thinking

Originally Posted by jaa1992

What year is the car?
What is it doing to make anyone suspect there is a problem?
Thats what I asked the owner

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And keep the pressure on for a few minutes at least, watching for any sign of dropping. Also you could watch the flow of water in the radiator, if there's a lot of bubbles then compression is getting into the system.
I know we can get a pump to pressurize the coolant system to ?psi thru the radiator cap so if a leaking head gasket it will either push coolant outside the block or into the cylinder which we obviously don't want
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What was the result of the compression test?
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Go to your local NAPA store and buy a block tester kit. You put the blue fluid in the plastic tube. Put the tube in place of the rad cap and run the prewarmed up engine. If the fluid turns green or yellow, there is exhaust gases in the coolent. It may take a couple of minutes, but this is the test I use.
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Originally Posted by cumbercr
What was the result of the compression test?
You know how a shop is, they don't tell you #1@156, #2@165 etc

Originally Posted by Paul Ruggeri
Go to your local NAPA store and buy a block tester kit. You put the blue fluid in the plastic tube. Put the tube in place of the rad cap and run the prewarmed up engine. If the fluid turns green or yellow, there is exhaust gases in the coolent. It may take a couple of minutes, but this is the test I use.
This sounds like the diffinitive answer

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Originally Posted by Paul Ruggeri
Go to your local NAPA store and buy a block tester kit. You put the blue fluid in the plastic tube. Put the tube in place of the rad cap and run the prewarmed up engine. If the fluid turns green or yellow, there is exhaust gases in the coolent. It may take a couple of minutes, but this is the test I use.
only way to do it. Pressure testing the cooling system only tells you if you have a cooling system leak (15 psi). Combustion pressures are 1,000's of PSI. Get the NAPA block tester (balkamp 700-1006). It's very easy to use.
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