[Help!]: How do I remove....
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[Help!]: How do I remove....
...the terminals from inside this connector? Can I? It is the overdrive relay connector for my 4+3. As you can see the wiring harness is WAY too short for this peice, and 15 years of time has taken it's toll on the wiring. I have intermittent problems not being able to get into OD because of these wires not making good contact.
I want to yank them and reconnect them. I can't figure out the trick to pulling the terminals that the wires are crimped into inside of the connector.
If you want to see the pin configuration it is on page 8A-202-6 in the HELMS manual. It is the same as the Amplifier Relay (look at OD relay and it refers you to this one). The #s under it are V00013.8
[Modified by scorp508, 12:05 PM 2/25/2002]
I want to yank them and reconnect them. I can't figure out the trick to pulling the terminals that the wires are crimped into inside of the connector.
If you want to see the pin configuration it is on page 8A-202-6 in the HELMS manual. It is the same as the Amplifier Relay (look at OD relay and it refers you to this one). The #s under it are V00013.8
[Modified by scorp508, 12:05 PM 2/25/2002]
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Re: [Help!]: How do I remove.... (scorp508)
I don't have one of those on my car (A4), and I can't see the ends, but...
I would suspect that the connectors inside can be removed by sliding a thin screwdriver or other similar tool into the connector from the end without the wires and releasing a spring clip. This is kinda like using a fine tool to release a zip tie. The conector and wire then pull out as one from the wire end. That is my best guess without being able to look at one. Good Luck.
Bob
I would suspect that the connectors inside can be removed by sliding a thin screwdriver or other similar tool into the connector from the end without the wires and releasing a spring clip. This is kinda like using a fine tool to release a zip tie. The conector and wire then pull out as one from the wire end. That is my best guess without being able to look at one. Good Luck.
Bob
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Re: [Help!]: How do I remove.... (BobMachus)
Thanks bob, that is the method I was going to try, but wanted to see if someone else thoguht so also. They do appear at least to be held in by a spring clip. They terminals move around a little bit, but then get caught up on something. I'll go grab a jeweler's screwdriver. :)
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Re: [Help!]: How do I remove.... (scorp508)
Yep, them things are a beeeotch to push out and fix...your dad should have a snap on tool or similiar that is usually octagonal in shape with misc points and metal driver/stubs for doing this type of work.
I have it but never was able to push the pieces out without breaking something so i ended up getting another connector,and posi locked it with the old wiring.
Hasnt failed yet.
Keep us posted how you do.
I have it but never was able to push the pieces out without breaking something so i ended up getting another connector,and posi locked it with the old wiring.
Hasnt failed yet.
Keep us posted how you do.
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Re: [Help!]: How do I remove.... (scorp508)
Been there...
I slid a thin screw driver into the back of each terminal and pulled it out. I got a small box of new terminals for a couple of bucks at Pep Boys. I added extensions to all five wires on each of the O/D and fuel pump relays. No more shorting problems.
I slid a thin screw driver into the back of each terminal and pulled it out. I got a small box of new terminals for a couple of bucks at Pep Boys. I added extensions to all five wires on each of the O/D and fuel pump relays. No more shorting problems.
...the terminals from inside this connector? Can I? It is the overdrive relay connector for my 4+3. As you can see the wiring harness is WAY too short for this peice, and 15 years of time has taken it's toll on the wiring. I have intermittent problems not being able to get into OD because of these wires not making good contact.
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Re: [Help!]: How do I remove.... (scorp508)
I have had similar problems, but not with THAT connector. To remove the wires with terminals from the fan relay plug and the EST plug, I attacked from the non-wire side, as discribed above. Even my jewelers screwdrivers were too big. They fit in there, but they didn't do the job. There ARE tools sold to do this job, but what worked for me was filing down the end of a paper clip. Not to a point, but to a wedge or screwdrive like edge. If you have a tool that works, it's a 2 second job. It MAY take hours figuring out that tool. I hope this helps a little. Good luck.
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Thanks everyone. I got them out with a jeweler's screwdriver. It appeared that there were no breaks in connections, so it must of bee jsut the 3 bare wires in ternimals C/D/E that were shorting. I rewrapped htem all. :)
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I rewrapped htem all. :)
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Re: [Help!]: How do I remove.... (scorp508)
Scorp:
That looks like the same connector that y 84 uses for the fan relay. Mine welded itself together and I replaced it with the 89 style. We used a bungee cable to get enough slack in the wire to splice.
That looks like the same connector that y 84 uses for the fan relay. Mine welded itself together and I replaced it with the 89 style. We used a bungee cable to get enough slack in the wire to splice.
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I rewrapped htem all. :)
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Re: [Help!]: How do I remove.... (scorp508)
Go to Radio Shack or some other electronics supplier. The make a tol called a pin pusher. Slips over the outide of the male end and collapses the barbs. Same idea for the female, probably the same tool.
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Re: [Help!]: How do I remove.... (dgoodhue)
I had the same problem with my MAF burnoff relay connector. The wires were shorting. I wonder how does the insulation get so short?
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Re: [Help!]: How do I remove.... (scorp508)
the cheapest way to pop these... I dont think the radio shack part will work. they are designed for smaller applications.
what you do is visit your local hobby shop. for about .80 or so, you can buy a length of brass tubing! cut a 4" piece and off you go!!! you can make a number of these tools... sell them!!! ya!
what you do is visit your local hobby shop. for about .80 or so, you can buy a length of brass tubing! cut a 4" piece and off you go!!! you can make a number of these tools... sell them!!! ya!