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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 07:35 PM
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Are they sure it won't fit or they just think it's possible that it might not? It sounds cool, but I wouldn't want to get another hood just to use it :eek: I like my stock hood just fine. :yesnod:
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 08:59 PM
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For that price someone will buy it, modify it and make it fit. Looks like a nice alternative for a MR or SR.
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Old Mar 2, 2002 | 03:51 AM
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FWIW, I had my super ram on my 355 with AFR heads, i put play-do in a baggy and put it on the super ram and shut the hood on it. there is about 1 inch of clearence in the dead center of the super ram to the hood.
The super ram also measures 9 and 3/8ths tall from base top top of the box.

The problem, as mentioned is the throttle body, without the downward slope, it will hit the hood.
When I measured the hood to throttle body clearence, I seem to remember comming up with about 1/4 of an inch.

Looks like the front of this intake is going to need a cut and weld option.
At ~$300.00, thats seems like no big deal to pay to have done.
How do I buy one now for this price?

Guess I will go read all the links posted in this thread now....
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Old Mar 2, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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I was looking at my TPI and found out that the hood and intake clearance is 0.750 so if the TB on it is 0.500 taller then the TB on a TPI you sute be ok because it would be the same as the TB on a Super Ram, I know of a guy that is trying this and is going to let me know how things go he thinks it will fit.

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Old Mar 2, 2002 | 12:37 PM
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I was looking at my TPI and found out that the hood and intake clearance is 0.750 so if the TB on it is 0.500 taller then the TB on a TPI you sute be ok because it would be the same as the TB on a Super Ram, I know of a guy that is trying this and is going to let me know how things go he thinks it will fit.
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Thanks Jay. If you find out this fits, I just found my next mod.
Hopefully some of our vendors will notice the demand here, and start selling them, perhaps even a GP.
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Old Mar 2, 2002 | 03:41 PM
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Just wondering. If the LPE setup is $1500, and this setup is around 500-600 total, but you have to buy a $1000 hood, have it painted, and buy a dist, where does the cost savings come in? I'd rather buy a proven intake for a little more.

Also what about cam? No one has mentioned what cam might be best with this setup. I know there has been talks about a 219 cam not working well with the mini-ram. Will the most common cams 219, and ZZ-9, ZZ-409 cams work well with this setup? IF not then we are all looking at a new cam as well. Plus the work to put it in. I guess right now this thing sounds like it could be a major pain until alot of the testing is done. As that is how this stuff works.
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Old Mar 2, 2002 | 04:03 PM
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One more note. How tall was the sledgehammer intake callaway used? This intake is some what like it. A guy in my club has a callaway with a slegdehammer intake. I will see if I can get some measurements.
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Old Mar 2, 2002 | 04:12 PM
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Just wondering. If the LPE setup is $1500, and this setup is around 500-600 total, but you have to buy a $1000 hood, have it painted, and buy a dist, where does the cost savings come in? I'd rather buy a proven intake for a little more.
If it needs a new hood, I wouldn't do it. I'd test it for the cost savings alone if it fits w/ a stock hood.
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Old Mar 2, 2002 | 04:16 PM
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Does callaway still hae the sledgehammer intake for sale?
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Old Mar 2, 2002 | 06:15 PM
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I hope everything works with this new unit. You guys out there with the info and contacts keep the rest of us informed please.
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Old Mar 3, 2002 | 09:28 PM
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A they dont know if it will fit or not they are just saying that it will be close and if it does then that would be cool for us L98 owners.

89vette you are right it is a nice price even if you have to make it fit but only if you dont have to spend a lot of money to do so.

88_vette You are right if you have to buy a new hood and have it painted it is not wouth it and it will cost as much as a SR or a MR, but if it works even with a little work it will be wouth it even if you have to buy a Dis, I have been told that you can just use the small cap Dis from a Camaro.
About the cam nobody can tell you for sure what cam will work best for this intake but cam makers can make a close guiess, even people with SR and MR are trying to find a better cams, people are all the time trying to find a bigger and better cam even engine builders that have been doing this for a lot of year are still hunting that perfict cam.
Last year people making cams for Pro Stock told everybody that a cam with 117 center line would not work but today eveybody is useing that center line.

I have been told that two guys with Corvette are trying this intake out and it will be fun to see how it goes, I will try to post all the info on this intake as soon as I get any.

Jay
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 11:09 AM
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Just wondering. If the LPE setup is $1500, and this setup is around 500-600 total, but you have to buy a $1000 hood, have it painted, and buy a dist, where does the cost savings come in? I'd rather buy a proven intake for a little more.
If it is just a matter of the throttle-body being straight, it wouldn't take much to angle it down. Either a cut/weld job as mentioned earlier or an angled adaptor bolted to the manifold would work if this is the only place there is interference.

While the SR IS a proven intake, its limitations are that you run out of air at 5600 RPM AND you pay through the nose for it. The Stealth-Ram is basically a tunnel-ram base with a TPI plenum on the top with fuel-injection. Drag racers have been using tunnel-rams for years with great success. From all appearances, this new intake falls between the TPIS Mini-Ram and the SR in runner length. It should move the powerband up into the 6500-7000 RPM range without losing tons of torque at the bottom-end. It should be the best of both worlds.

Any good cam manufacturer will be able to get you the right cam just by knowing the flow-rate of the intake and heads, the length of the runners, cubic inches of the motor and where you want the powerband to be. Their software will chew on the numbers and spit out the appropriate camshaft. I would think that any cam that worked well with the TPIS Mini-Ram would work very well with the Stealth-Ram. Just a guess, but when I get ready for choosing the cam I'll be consulting with a professional to make sure.

I'm going to look seriously at this intake for my 427 SBC. I was looking at $2300 for a Hogan's manifold just to feed enough air to the heads. It looks like with a little tweaking and porting, this stealth-ram will get you into the 340-350 CFM range easily. From the posts in the Chevy newsgroup, they are saying 300 CFM out of the box. That's 70-80 CFM more than the TPIS unit (220-230 CFM)...for a LOT less $$$.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 11:21 AM
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Ugh. I'm going back and forth trying to decide whether to hold off on getting the Accel Super Ram base that I was planning on. I already have the SLP runners on the way. The holley setup could be a much better setup, but I'm afraid that with my mild cam (214/224 .442/.465 112lsa hydraulic) and 461 heads, this holley will do more harm than good. This intake might push my power band right past what my cam and heads can deal with.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 12:39 PM
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MrJay

Please keep us updated on the Stealthram.

I am looking for a new intake this year.

Thanks

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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 11:47 PM
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I know there are a couple of threads running about this intake. Any updates on if it will fit a C4? without buying a new hood?
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Old Mar 15, 2002 | 10:02 AM
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Grumpyvette actually has one in his posession. He says it is too tall from just measuring the differences between the two, but nobody has actually installed one on a C4 yet...


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Old Mar 19, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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Found a nice high-rise hood from Greenwood for $485 http://www.greenwoodvette.com in the GC4 additional options section.

With that you could easily install the Holley unit.
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 03:45 AM
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Fuel Rails $175
Distributor $270 because you have to use a small cap one.
Regulator ?
I wonder if the stock fuel rails could be modified to fit. The injector opening spacing is the same so its just a matter of changing the lines that go between the rails and using the stock regulator. GM sells an electronic distributor that might work for the setup. Its about 135 bucks from a discount GM dealer.
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