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on an 85, if you put on the TPIS LT headers, and their front Y pipe with the 4 bolt flange that hooks to the front of the stock cat, what options are there for having true duels?
Or is it best to just give up on true duals in lieu of easy install and good fit..and convince a muffler shop to make a "test pipe" to replace my hollow shell of a cat?
Here is what I did. I had may local muffler shop cut off the 4 bolt flange and run dual pipes, 3" in my case, all the way back to my mufflers. As you can see I had an H pipe put in near the front by the transmission. It works well for me. The flanges near the back below the differential are so that the system can be taken apart in smaller pieces.
On my 85, I went with TPiS headers and the TPiS 86 Y pipe. The 86 has a slip fitting for the cat. I then installed an 86 Magnaflow high flow cat and Corsa cat-back. The installation was simple. I went this route because I wanted the Corsa system and Corsa does not have a system for the 85.
In the first picture, what part exactly is the TPIS front Y pipe, does it terminate at those clamps?
How much of the TPIS front Y pipe were you able to retain?
The two welds near the back of the transmission are where the 4 bolt flange part of the TPIS Y-pipe was cut off. The other weld you see on the left side pipe (as viewed from the picture from the front) was a modification to the TPIS Y-pipe I had to make when I was using the 4 bolt flange to connect to the old converter. This was necessary because the TPIS Y-pipe would not center up properly under the car so it was necessary to cut there and add a short extension to that leg so the converter would center up under the car. I am sure good muffler shop could make you full length dual without the TPIS Y-pipe if that is the way you want to go.
I went w/the TPIS full exhaust system from the headers on back......they have a nice kit to match up with their headers, IMO......I know some of you folks are Flowmaster bashers, but I have a real nice exhaust note on mine and the Flowmasters they have in the catalog are three chamber....not obnoxious at all really......the Random Tech hi-flow cat they have works real well too (if you have to run a cat).....a little pricey but the only drawback I have to the whole system is the black paint....pretty much sucks as it flakes with heat at the rear y where it branches off.....
I must admit, I like the true dual system above too.....looks like a nice set up....
Here is what I did. I had may local muffler shop cut off the 4 bolt flange and run dual pipes, 3" in my case, all the way back to my mufflers. As you can see I had an H pipe put in near the front by the transmission. It works well for me. The flanges near the back below the differential are so that the system can be taken apart in smaller pieces.
Not to hi jack this thread (hopefully I added something above based on my experience with my project 85 car's exhaust), but can I get a glimbse of those wheels on your 85 you mention above?? I am really trying to find an 11 rear wheel for my 85 (chrome ZR1 preferred) to fit on the car (no spacers)....I am running 9.5" chrome ZR1's on all four currently.....
In my reasoning, If you are going to cut up a perfectly good Y pipe, and the TPIS Y pipe is the same pipe diameter as the original pipe, why go to the expense of getting a TPIS Y pipe only to cut off the engineered bends?
Use the factory Y pipe to chop up, you won't make any more ponies cutting a factory 2.75 diameter pipe, or a TPIS 2.75 diameter pipe that's 18 inches long.
The factory piece is stainless, then have dual cats staggard under the car to keep them in the tunnel.
Then mufflers of your choice.
In my reasoning, If you are going to cut up a perfectly good Y pipe, and the TPIS Y pipe is the same pipe diameter as the original pipe, why go to the expense of getting a TPIS Y pipe only to cut off the engineered bends?
Use the factory Y pipe to chop up, you won't make any more ponies cutting a factory 2.75 diameter pipe, or a TPIS 2.75 diameter pipe that's 18 inches long.
The factory piece is stainless, then have dual cats staggard under the car to keep them in the tunnel.
Then mufflers of your choice.
The TPiS Y pipe is 3 inch. The factory Y is 2.5 inch.
Not to hi jack this thread (hopefully I added something above based on my experience with my project 85 car's exhaust), but can I get a glimbse of those wheels on your 85 you mention above?? I am really trying to find an 11 rear wheel for my 85 (chrome ZR1 preferred) to fit on the car (no spacers)....I am running 9.5" chrome ZR1's on all four currently.....
Here's a picture that shows the wheels. I am sure if you go to Complete Custom Wheels website they may have better pictures.
Brian
Last edited by VanSpeed; Nov 22, 2009 at 07:03 PM.
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In my reasoning, If you are going to cut up a perfectly good Y pipe, and the TPIS Y pipe is the same pipe diameter as the original pipe, why go to the expense of getting a TPIS Y pipe only to cut off the engineered bends?
Agreed, no reason to but the Y-pipe just to cut it up. I had used the TPIS Y-pipe for a number of year with the stock cat, gutted later, and when I went to the current engine I wanted and needed dual 3" all the way back to the mufflers so cutting the TPIS Y-pipe was an easy way to handle the situation.
Or is it best to just give up on true duals in lieu of easy install and good fit..and convince a muffler shop to make a "test pipe" to replace my hollow shell of a cat?
I gave up on the true duals because nobody has shown me significant improvement for the effort it requires. I did the experiment on my F-body where I took off the exhaust pieces after the collector and ran it with all the parts in the car. No difference. At this time, true duals for street cars seem more like the ricer effect where they think it has some gain other than to impress the other rices.
OTOH, if someone can prove to me that there is significant gain to be had and the loss of clearance and effort are worth it, I'd love to see it. If it gains 1/2 HP, is it worth it? Well, if I were a race car and there is a huge purse, absolutely. OTOH, if you tell me I have to hack up the exhaust just to impress the rice boys, I don't think so.