Looking at California legal mods. Feeling like I need a few more HP. How would this supercharger fit a Superamed L98? Would It run too hot with a Dewitts Radiator and some mods to the fans?

http://www.staticxmotorsports.com/pr...1gb212-d1.aspx

 

The photo you show is not an intercooled kit. You will pickup some horsepower and some serious torque. This setup is using a stock 20 year old radiator. No overheating issues.



Be aware that the intercooler tubing is very close to the road

 

Nice setup. Looks like your car just came back from the SEMA show.

 

Not mine. My buddies car that I do a little work on The Procharger was installed by a local shop

 

My best friend bought a twin intercooled PB600 for his 90. Seems like a nightmare to install everything but it's a smog legal system.

 

I checked out running better heads and a cam. The problem is if I run a decent cam I'll flunk the smog. I was told that this supercharger is smog legal and will burn cleaner.

So can you can run it without the intercooler? Would you suggest installing just the supercharger?

That photo looks like a stock L98 any idea how much HP and torque increased? Will it clear a super ram?

 

Yep,stock L98 with 63'xxx miles when installed 3 years ago.
Base line Dyno before install was 227 HP and 320ish torque to the wheels.
Dyno after install with 6lbs boost was 320 HP and 430 torque to the wheels. The car actually gets better MPG with the procharger than with out. Not sure about the Super Ram but I don't see why it wouldn't clear. In my opinion the intercooler is a must.
As far as the install it is not for the faint of heart.... A real PITA.
Total cost was just under $8000. He really likes this car. You will suprise most all C5's unless they are highly modded. Hope this helps
You will have to get rid of the AIR pump unless they have changed the package

 

An intercooler is certainly not a must, especially when the boost is below 10psi. The added volume the piping and the intercooler itself will add actually cause a drop in boost, so any gains you might get from the drop in charge temperature will be negated by the drop in pressure.

For boost pressures below 10psi you're far better off considering gaseous intercooling (or 'water/methanol injection' as it's often referred to). It will drop charge temperatures significantly when under boost without any loss in pressure and without the complexity of additional piping and hoses (which can be a problem under the hood of a C4).

Consider visiting the Blower Works website and downloading their C4 supercharging manual/catalogue. You'll learn a lot about supercharging your C4 there.

www.blowerworks.net

 

Thanks to all. I'm very interested and will check it out.

 

A very good point and something to consider.

 

Thanks again! I downloaded the info from blowerworks.com. I should be able to get the complete package with the intercooler for under $ 5000.00. I found out that a L98 needs a bigger fuel pump and 24 lb. injectors for the ATI Procharger.

I just installed new 24lb. Trickflows and a Walbro high output fuel pump. So maybe cost and the install will be a little easier. I'm gonna call a few installers next week and get a price on the labor. I Think I'm going for the complete system with the intercooler.

It's seems a little expensive but it could turn out to be a good deal when compared to the alternatives. I checked out building a new larger displacement engine even though the L98 was rebuilt a few years ago. Good heads and cam can cost over $4000.00 when you add labor. So for me this may be a a sweet deal.

 

Fred, Drivability has been uneffected on my friends car.You will need the extra fuel pump and the FMU which is included in the Procharger kit.
You will also need your factory tune. The only drawback is the blower is quite noisy (whine at low RPM). There aint no sneakin' around.

 

According to Blowerworks.com website timeslips I could be smog legal and in the mid 12s.

I might have to have 2 sets of exhausts. Stock exhaust for the smog test every 2 years. and long tubes for everything else.

 

My vette won't run on the OEM chip because of the Super ram. I had a custom tune to get it right. Hope I can keep the super ram. I still have the OEM intake if needed.

 

In NY we don't have Smog ****'s but we only get to drive for 8 months.

 

Something to discuss with the installer. Iam sure a competent guy can work with your tune.

 

You'll save a lot by doing it yourself. Except for the tuning, it should be a bolt on. Just need a good set of tools and some time. If it is a well made kit, everything should be included and nothing should have to be fabricated or welded.

 

I would think you would need a lot bigger than 24 lb injectors.

Dont go with the FMU units that come with the name brand kits. Ditch the FMU and go with bigger injectors, a custom tune, and a big fuel pump (walbro 340 255 liter/hour with its hot wire coming direct from the alternator or + terminal on the battery).

Work with Greg Carrol at blowerworks. He's made a whole business of this for the past few decades?

 

Blower Works knows their stuff.I called them about 6 months ago with questions & they sent me alot of stuff/books about their product(s) answering all my questions.I personally would rather build a engine properly for supercharging,then putting a supercharger on a stock engine.Thats not to say I don't think supercharging is bad-*** but just my opinion.What turned me off is them saying that I will get blow-by that may be excessive enough to pop out oil dipstickPlus their intercooler kit is methonal injection not a standard intercooler,& fuel system has to be upgraded(with the kit & all needed things I was at about $8000 which would buy me a nice 396 lt-1 with over 500 hp or buy me headers & other cool bolt-ons).The methonal can be in place of your washer fluid or they sell containers/tanks that can be installed in different locations.To me this adds weight & can be dangerous in a accident/collision.Plus the stock pistons are cast & is not the best for forced induction.I'm sure people here have had no issues with supercharging their stock engines but with my luck I would blow the engine within a week & would then have to build-up engine anyway.Also keep in mind that other things should be upgraded at same time-clutch,differential,cooling system,etc.Either way if you have that much money laying around to upgrade your engine you can't go wrong with bolt-ons,supercharging,etc.I plan on putting $4000-$5000 in my car too but don't have the money yet,but plan on doing just bolt-ons-hot cam kit,lt headers,mufflers,tune,MAF sensor housing,electric waterpump,torque converter,dewitts radiator,ported intake & throttle body.I just want to get into the 12s,& don't want to put $10,000 into my car.Post what you decide with picturesI'd be very surprised if you get job done for less than $7000-$8000(this is with paying someone to install system,parts,etc)

 

If I was in a different state I would do the heads, cam and longtubes. California banned methanol injection so I'm also limited on supercharging. A few people warned me that I could blow the engine because the stock pistons won't hold up very long.

I should probably move.