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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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Recently, I had to replace my fuel injectors on a 89. I used Bosch III from FIC. Unfortunately, I busted a bolt and ended up having to replace the intake manifold as well. So I removed and replace the distributor. Anyway, now I have it together and I was trying to adjust the timing. That has been difficult. It will start fine when it is cold, but runs rough and I can't get the timing set to what I think 6 degrees before TDC is. It also will not start, no fire at all, after it warms up even a little. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Hopefully one of the smart guys will be along soon.
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What method did you use to setup dizzy position ?

You can still use a timing light while someone cranks the motor over(injector fuses removed).
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What method did you use to setup dizzy position ?

You can still use a timing light while someone cranks the motor over(injector fuses removed).


also, when timing always make sure est wire is disconnected.
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I did disconnect the EST wire when I tried to set the timing. However, when I set the timing to 6 degrees before TDC, it starts to run very rough and sputters. It has back fired through the throttle body on start up once as well.
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How did you determine rotor position ?
Are you 100 % sure of wire routing to plugs ?
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I have double checked the firing order, however, when I reinstalled the distributor after replacing the intake manifold, It might have been off slightly, maybe 2 or 3 degrees to the right. I thought I could make up for that by rotating the cap.

Anyway, I didn't have the engine at TDC when I pulled the distribotor. I just marked where the rotor pointed to on the firewall and when I reinstalled it afterwards, it seemed slightly to the right (clockwise).

Do yoy think I could just rotate the wires clockwise on the distributor cap 1 position and retime?
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Do yoy think I could just rotate the wires clockwise on the distributor cap 1 position and retime?
Yes you could, if the problem is lack of timing adjustment. Get a timing light on it, while someone cranks it.
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I have used a timing light (with the est wire disconnected) and when I adjust it to 6 degrees before TDC it runs very rough.
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Vacuum leak ??
What is your fuel pressure ?
Any fuel in reg vacuum line ?
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Sounds like the Distributor is off a tooth. Mark the #1 plug at the Distributor on the Manifold and with the Cap removed, manually crank it over to TDC as shown on the balancer. I'm betting the rotor isn't going to line up (if it's pointing in the vicinty of #6 turn it over a 2nd time for #1). You'll need to R & R the distributor until it does. You may have to turn the cam drive gear which you can do with a long bladed screwdriver. Double check by manually cranking the engine over (it has to go around twice to be at TDC for #1). When it's right, start it up and set timing.
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I pulled the cap and cranked the engine. The mark on the harmonic balancer is just about even with the right edge (as facing the engine) of the timing gauge plate. The rotor looks like it it pointing at #8, the first plug after #1.
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The mark on the Balancer needs to line up with 0 on the Tab. Assuming it's there, the Distributor is off (if it's pointing at 8). Easy enough to do - that's why I mark the Manifold (and at one point, there was a Tech Tip on how to get it right - sure helped me out years ago!). Anyway, when you stab the Distributor it's going to rotate, so you start a little bit back (left) from the #1 position and it should rotatate (right) into the correct place. If it's not going in all the way, then you need to get your long bladed screwdriver out and turn the Cam gear.
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