LT1 ported Heads or AFRs
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From: Sandhills of North Carolina
I was quoted 1600 and change a few months back. Don't think that included shipping either. Where is all of this 1300 coming from? LE can do my LT1 heads for 1000.00 in his LE2 package since I already have the springs so he says. 600.00 plus more to throw down doesn't seem worth it to me for a basically stock LT1.
Racer
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From: Eden Utah
I was quoted 1600 and change a few months back. Don't think that included shipping either. Where is all of this 1300 coming from? LE can do my LT1 heads for 1000.00 in his LE2 package since I already have the springs so he says. 600.00 plus more to throw down doesn't seem worth it to me for a basically stock LT1.
Jims phone number is (801) 953-6391
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From: College Station TX
I was quoted 1600 and change a few months back. Don't think that included shipping either. Where is all of this 1300 coming from? LE can do my LT1 heads for 1000.00 in his LE2 package since I already have the springs so he says. 600.00 plus more to throw down doesn't seem worth it to me for a basically stock LT1.
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From: Overland Park Kansas
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Seems like there's some pricing confusion going on in this thread. People need to understand that AFRs for L98s cost less than for LT1 motors. Why? I don't know, but they do.
So, T. Wayne,,,don't expect/imply that people should expect the same pricing for LT heads that you might have seen for L98 heads.
And, I didn't see where Cuisinart mentioned anything about $1300.
Make sure everyone knows what heads and head prices they are talking about!
So, T. Wayne,,,don't expect/imply that people should expect the same pricing for LT heads that you might have seen for L98 heads.
And, I didn't see where Cuisinart mentioned anything about $1300.
Make sure everyone knows what heads and head prices they are talking about!
Last edited by GREGGPENN; Jan 3, 2010 at 06:07 PM.
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From: Sandhills of North Carolina
You're exactly right Greg. I was told that price by someone else in a PM Not Ron. Come to think of it he has a L98. Maybe this "is" adding to the confusion here. Anyway, no disrespect to Jim he is a stand up guy and would help anyone out that needed it.
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From: Salem NH
Seems like there's some pricing confusion going on in this thread. People need to understand that AFRs for L98s cost less than for LT1 motors. Why? I don't know, but they do.
So, T. Wayne,,,don't expect/imply that people should expect the same pricing for LT heads that you might have seen for L98 heads.
And, I didn't see where Cuisinart mentioned anything about $1300.
Make sure everyone knows what heads and head prices they are talking about!
So, T. Wayne,,,don't expect/imply that people should expect the same pricing for LT heads that you might have seen for L98 heads.
And, I didn't see where Cuisinart mentioned anything about $1300.
Make sure everyone knows what heads and head prices they are talking about!
A little birdy told me PeteK can get AFR for a competitive price too.
My guess would be AFR sells twice as many SBC heads as LTx heads. There is just an absolute ton of SBC powered street/strip cars out there, only a handful really of LTx cars. And of that handful, another handful doesn't know why they need heads
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I just purchased a set of 195s from Jim, you need to get a hold of him as you might be very suprised how cheap you can purchase them for. As for the horsepower difference, I have not had a chance to get it on the dyno and dial in the tune, but the difference (seat of Pants) seems big. I posted 347 rwhp with edelbrock heads, looking for above 400 with the AFR 195. I know Jim personally and will vouch for him to the max, great guy, and big time racer.
Jims phone number is (801) 953-6391
Jims phone number is (801) 953-6391
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From: Toronto ontario
Dont let anyone tell you they will be "just as good as", theres no way.
Why spend the money for a nice motor and then shortcut the most important part? Forget old heads, get the good stuff.
Cost of
valves/seats/keepers/retainers/cups
labor-clean, mag, setup install height etc
guides?
valve job
porting
flow bench time to prove whats there
surface
Any shop that doesnt do/check all this is wasting your time and $.
Ported stockers have their place but on a stroker where youre looking for more go for the good stuff right off the bat, plus its all new, lighter valvetrain, thicker deck, etc. I have no horse inthe game just being honest here.
Why spend the money for a nice motor and then shortcut the most important part? Forget old heads, get the good stuff.
Cost of
valves/seats/keepers/retainers/cups
labor-clean, mag, setup install height etc
guides?
valve job
porting
flow bench time to prove whats there
surface
Any shop that doesnt do/check all this is wasting your time and $.
Ported stockers have their place but on a stroker where youre looking for more go for the good stuff right off the bat, plus its all new, lighter valvetrain, thicker deck, etc. I have no horse inthe game just being honest here.
Nobody else needed to post after this one . Good choice on the AFRs.
Burning Brakes
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From: Minneapolis MN
I've been doing some research on Lloyd elliott-check it out.Personally I would go with one of the Lloyd elliott packages unless money is not an issue.I've heard GREAT reviews about his work & will buy one of his packages instead of the Hot cam kit I was so set on.He also ports stock intakes.Call him & ask questions
Racer
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From: Eden Utah
I have a mini-ram 1 with 1204/5 ports. I purchased the L98 1040 heads as they matched the intake the best. There are 5 of us that are going out for a dyno run later this month, I will post the numbers.
How you coming on yours.. That thing has got to be a major tire shredding beast...
How you coming on yours.. That thing has got to be a major tire shredding beast...
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I have a mini-ram 1 with 1204/5 ports. I purchased the L98 1040 heads as they matched the intake the best. There are 5 of us that are going out for a dyno run later this month, I will post the numbers.
How you coming on yours.. That thing has got to be a major tire shredding beast...
How you coming on yours.. That thing has got to be a major tire shredding beast...
It's about -10 right now outside. Enough said!
Come spring/summer, I will start a thread in regards to the 421 dyno numbers etc....
Let me know how your dyno session goes plz....
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From: Metairie Louisiana
I'm in the same boat right now. I'm leaning toward the LE2's and saving a good bit of money to make the same power. LE will definately be porting my intake. If I had a stroker motor then I would probably looking at other options.
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From: Kempner Texas
Why is it we don't see independent dyno results of engines wearing heads offered for sale by the two names so often referenced? I'm specifically referring to AI and LE.
Most guys sing their praises, but where are the numbers - the results? Since our economic system is so based on competition, how do those two compare with the others?
Why is it we don't see those heads competing in cylnder head shoot-outs?
Weren't they invited? Were they invited but chose not to accept and compete? If so, why?
What about those heads being chosen to be used in magazine engine builds? I see the same names over and over - AFR, Dart, Brodix, Trickflow, etc. Can someone point me to a site where they were used in an independent engine buid up?
Isn't it time we start getting more independently verified details?
I just have a questioning mind.
Jake
Most guys sing their praises, but where are the numbers - the results? Since our economic system is so based on competition, how do those two compare with the others?
Why is it we don't see those heads competing in cylnder head shoot-outs?
Weren't they invited? Were they invited but chose not to accept and compete? If so, why?
What about those heads being chosen to be used in magazine engine builds? I see the same names over and over - AFR, Dart, Brodix, Trickflow, etc. Can someone point me to a site where they were used in an independent engine buid up?
Isn't it time we start getting more independently verified details?
I just have a questioning mind.
Jake
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Why is it we don't see independent dyno results of engines wearing heads offered for sale by the two names so often referenced? I'm specifically referring to AI and LE.
Most guys sing their praises, but where are the numbers - the results? Since our economic system is so based on competition, how do those two compare with the others?
Why is it we don't see those heads competing in cylnder head shoot-outs?
Weren't they invited? Were they invited but chose not to accept and compete? If so, why?
What about those heads being chosen to be used in magazine engine builds? I see the same names over and over - AFR, Dart, Brodix, Trickflow, etc. Can someone point me to a site where they were used in an independent engine buid up?
Isn't it time we start getting more independently verified details?
I just have a questioning mind.
Jake
Most guys sing their praises, but where are the numbers - the results? Since our economic system is so based on competition, how do those two compare with the others?
Why is it we don't see those heads competing in cylnder head shoot-outs?
Weren't they invited? Were they invited but chose not to accept and compete? If so, why?
What about those heads being chosen to be used in magazine engine builds? I see the same names over and over - AFR, Dart, Brodix, Trickflow, etc. Can someone point me to a site where they were used in an independent engine buid up?
Isn't it time we start getting more independently verified details?
I just have a questioning mind.
Jake
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From: Kempner Texas
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There was a challenge offered here about a year or so ago (in the jsup days 
) but noone ponied up. Member wesmigletz offered up his 62 and had numerous heads, intakes, etc done with track times, etc. Its been posted here and in a mag or two also. Ill shoot him a pm and see if he can give links.
) but noone ponied up. Member wesmigletz offered up his 62 and had numerous heads, intakes, etc done with track times, etc. Its been posted here and in a mag or two also. Ill shoot him a pm and see if he can give links.