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As you well know, my primary concern is having something that is 100% California emissions compliant.
The Accel Super Ram is one of only a few after market systems that is legal for use with a EO# and yet gives me the best of all worlds with it's performance gains while not sacrificing economy.
Looking forward to the day when it's on so that I can compare with my previous numbers.
Thanks again for working with me on this, appreciated more than you know.
Jim
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Burning Brakes
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Tim,
Lost my notes in regards to our last phone conversation and the gaskets that you recommended when I change over to the Super Ram.
I want to gasket match everything before the install and will need a part number if at all possible.
Thanks,
Jim
Lost my notes in regards to our last phone conversation and the gaskets that you recommended when I change over to the Super Ram.
I want to gasket match everything before the install and will need a part number if at all possible.
Thanks,
Jim
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Yes Jim, it's discounted for you, only $500 instead of the $800 yearly fee. Payment in full due by the end of the month, Visa, MasterCard, Paypal, or cash. I am the new treasurer by the way. I'll be in the office all day tomorrow if you want to drop the cash by. The new, first edition newsletter will be out shortly. Willie
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Here's a link to them @ Jegs Jim, I think they'd be available at Summit & most local speed shops as well:
http://www.jegs.com/vct/Accel/110/1011069
Beware though, don't use other runner gaskets or you could have a vaccuum leak. See this thread from many years ago (in particular post #40 by Rich @ Cruzin Performance): http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...ep-inside.html
Here's a couple pics of the potential problem if you use the wrong gasket:
http://www.jegs.com/vct/Accel/110/1011069
Beware though, don't use other runner gaskets or you could have a vaccuum leak. See this thread from many years ago (in particular post #40 by Rich @ Cruzin Performance): http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...ep-inside.html
Here's a couple pics of the potential problem if you use the wrong gasket:
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Yes Jim, it's discounted for you, only $500 instead of the $800 yearly fee. Payment in full due by the end of the month, Visa, MasterCard, Paypal, or cash. I am the new treasurer by the way. I'll be in the office all day tomorrow if you want to drop the cash by. The new, first edition newsletter will be out shortly. Willie
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Yes Jim, it's discounted for you, only $500 instead of the $800 yearly fee. Payment in full due by the end of the month, Visa, MasterCard, Paypal, or cash. I am the new treasurer by the way. I'll be in the office all day tomorrow if you want to drop the cash by. The new, first edition newsletter will be out shortly. Willie
Your killing Me!
Even with the discounted rate, I feel that your "elite group" is a bit out of my league
Then again, if you will accept Monopoly money, I may re-think my position
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Here's a link to them @ Jegs Jim, I think they'd be available at Summit & most local speed shops as well:
http://www.jegs.com/vct/Accel/110/1011069
Beware though, don't use other runner gaskets or you could have a vaccuum leak. See this thread from many years ago (in particular post #40 by Rich @ Cruzin Performance): http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...ep-inside.html
Here's a couple pics of the potential problem if you use the wrong gasket:
http://www.jegs.com/vct/Accel/110/1011069
Beware though, don't use other runner gaskets or you could have a vaccuum leak. See this thread from many years ago (in particular post #40 by Rich @ Cruzin Performance): http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...ep-inside.html
Here's a couple pics of the potential problem if you use the wrong gasket:
I now see the importance of getting the correct gasket set.
Last thing I need besides the wrong fitting gaskets are vacuum leaks.
Before the install, I want to be sure that I have ALL OF THE CORRECT associated pieces and not have Marc Power have to do this twice.
Thanks for all of the tips, every bit of knowledge that I can extract from you and Willie as well as others is greatly appreciated.
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From: moraga ca
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Because you are going to make me "President" I see it only fitting that you assume the duties of the "Vice" chair since you pretty well versed on the "Vice" aspect of this deal...
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Thanks Tim,
I now see the importance of getting the correct gasket set.
Last thing I need besides the wrong fitting gaskets are vacuum leaks.
Before the install, I want to be sure that I have ALL OF THE CORRECT associated pieces and not have Marc Power have to do this twice.
Thanks for all of the tips, every bit of knowledge that I can extract from you and Willie as well as others is greatly appreciated.
I now see the importance of getting the correct gasket set.
Last thing I need besides the wrong fitting gaskets are vacuum leaks.
Before the install, I want to be sure that I have ALL OF THE CORRECT associated pieces and not have Marc Power have to do this twice.
Thanks for all of the tips, every bit of knowledge that I can extract from you and Willie as well as others is greatly appreciated.
I remember seeing this back when I had a superram, called around and lingenfelter and summit said it was fixed and ordered a gasket set and it fit perfectly. I'm hoping this is a thing of the past but good to keep an eye on regardless.
Also an old tip from petek I think, use vasoline on the paper gaskets to get them to swell and then bolt it together, no leaks.
Marv, definitely go SR, it isn't that high rpm and it is just lightyears ahead of the stock stuff.
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Thanks Chris for your input...
It is the little things such as the Vasoline application as you suggested that will help make this installation easier.
I have heard and read a few stories about people who before me had problems with this installation with the Super Ram and it was mainly with improper gasket sealing issues.
It certainly helps when someone who has had experience with this particular system comes in and shares their knowledge.
I appreciate hearing from anyone who has gone through this and any tips that they may have.
Jim
It is the little things such as the Vasoline application as you suggested that will help make this installation easier.
I have heard and read a few stories about people who before me had problems with this installation with the Super Ram and it was mainly with improper gasket sealing issues.
It certainly helps when someone who has had experience with this particular system comes in and shares their knowledge.
I appreciate hearing from anyone who has gone through this and any tips that they may have.
Jim
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On my SR, I rtv the gasket on one side and use white lithium grease on the other (I'm the one with the previous tip 
). In other words, the lower runner gaskets are stuck to the intake manifold and lithium grease is used next to the runner. On the upper side of the runners, rtv the gaskets to the top flat part of the runners, use lithium grease between that gasket and the plenum and you should be good to go. I do the same thing on for the throttle body. The motor is apart at least once or twice a year (including now) and I haven't changed gaskets in at least 6 years. Willie
). In other words, the lower runner gaskets are stuck to the intake manifold and lithium grease is used next to the runner. On the upper side of the runners, rtv the gaskets to the top flat part of the runners, use lithium grease between that gasket and the plenum and you should be good to go. I do the same thing on for the throttle body. The motor is apart at least once or twice a year (including now) and I haven't changed gaskets in at least 6 years. Willie
Last edited by 383vett; Jan 14, 2012 at 04:20 PM.
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All good tips Willie and very much appreciated.
Just to be on the safe side, I will be doing a print out of all of these suggestions just before the installation that I will pass on to Marc Power.
Though every modification that has been done on this engine has been used with California emissions legal EO numbers right from the cam shaft including Edelbrock Performer Cylinder heads, BBK Throttle body and now with the soon to be installed Accel Super Ram, I am a bit concerned if it will pass or not.
After reading some of the recent posts in the Northern California section, it seems that CARB keeps raising the standards.
My car will be due in March 2013 for emissions testing and it would be very disappointing with all the new requirements if my 87 C4 didn't pass.
Just to be on the safe side, I will be doing a print out of all of these suggestions just before the installation that I will pass on to Marc Power.
Though every modification that has been done on this engine has been used with California emissions legal EO numbers right from the cam shaft including Edelbrock Performer Cylinder heads, BBK Throttle body and now with the soon to be installed Accel Super Ram, I am a bit concerned if it will pass or not.
After reading some of the recent posts in the Northern California section, it seems that CARB keeps raising the standards.
My car will be due in March 2013 for emissions testing and it would be very disappointing with all the new requirements if my 87 C4 didn't pass.
Last edited by Jim McCombe; Jan 14, 2012 at 04:19 PM.
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Get a 1/4" gear wrench (I believe that is the size, take one of your SR runner to plenum bolts, 12 points usually, to verify) it will make life a lot easier on the ones you can get to.
I just used vasoline on both sides, worked ok for me but I bet Willie has been through his more.
I just used vasoline on both sides, worked ok for me but I bet Willie has been through his more.
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Get a 1/4" gear wrench (I believe that is the size, take one of your SR runner to plenum bolts, 12 points usually, to verify) it will make life a lot easier on the ones you can get to.
I just used vasoline on both sides, worked ok for me but I bet Willie has been through his more.
I just used vasoline on both sides, worked ok for me but I bet Willie has been through his more.
Last edited by 383vett; Jan 15, 2012 at 01:21 PM.