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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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Can someone tell me what this does and where it is located. I have a code 21. 86 vette. steve
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code 21 TPS signal voltage high
Code 21 will set if:
TPS signal voltage is greater than 2.5V for 4 sec:
Air flow is less than 12 gm/sec
Engine speed less than 1200 RPM

TPS is located on passenger side of throttle body. has a 3 pin connector. Backprobe pins A and B with DVM to check voltage. Adjustment is made with slotted screws on side. Correct TPS voltage with key on engine off is .54V, +/- .07V
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http://members.shaw.ca/agent86/TB-TPS+Min-Idle.pdf

http://members.shaw.ca/corvette86/Code%2021.pdf
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is it possible the TPS volts are at 4.84. Steve
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is it possible the TPS volts are at 4.84. Steve
4.84= Wide Open Throttle
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Originally Posted by AGENT 86
4.84= Wide Open Throttle
No. key on, not running
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If the TPS voltage is 4.84 with the engine off but key 'ON', then then TPS is either

defective or

the screws have somehow loosened allowing the TPS to physically move or

you checked using the wrong two wires (use the TOP and MIDDLE wires).

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If you are measuring the correct wires(the top 2), I would think there is a failure of the TPS. I don't think there is enough adjustment to reach 4.84.
Did you follow the test for 21 ?
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Mid America Corvette parts has a TPS test harness for about $15 that works great. Here is a photo, URL link and test instructions.

http://www.mamotorworks.com/corvette?frame=1.900
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Originally Posted by pmihaltian
Mid America Corvette parts has a TPS test harness for about $15 that works great. Here is a photo, URL link and test instructions.

http://www.mamotorworks.com/corvette?frame=1.900
Thanks i will order one today. Steve
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Originally Posted by lexman52
Thanks i will order one today. Steve
Why not get some Upholstry pins. Those are long and have a head you can put a DVOM to. That or take a safety pin and poke thru the wire.
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Why not get some Upholstry pins. Those are long and have a head you can put a DVOM to. That or take a safety pin and poke thru the wire.
Thanks the pin works good. My readings are 5.70v to 6.23v. Should
be 0.45v. Guess i need a new one.

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Originally Posted by lexman52
Thanks the pin works good. My readings are 5.70v to 6.23v. Should
be 0.45v. Gess i need a new one.

Steve
Something is weird. I thought that the reference was 5V? How does this get to 5.7 and 6.23?
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Originally Posted by aklim
Something is weird. I thought that the reference was 5V? How does this get to 5.7 and 6.23?
Book says adjust to a reading of 0.54^0.075volts.
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Originally Posted by lexman52
Book says adjust to a reading of 0.54^0.075volts.
That is at idle. My point is there are 3 wires. Reference (5V), ground and signal to the ECM. If I am correct and the reference is 5V, max you can get as a signal is 5V. So, if you get 5.7V or 6.23V, I am not sure your reference is right.

This is kinda like me giving you $5 to get me a can of soda. Even if you don't get the soda, how do you get more than $5 in your pocket, assuming it was empty before I gave you the money.
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you might have an ecm issue...check your ref voltage
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you might have an ecm issue...check your ref voltage
5v looks good
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Originally Posted by lexman52
5v looks good
Now I'm confused. You said you got 6.23 V. How did that happen then if you have 5V?
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Now I'm confused. You said you got 6.23 V. How did that happen then if you have 5V?
i got the high v from wire A+B that should be 0.45 C is 5v
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