C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

Another Timing Chain Question: '85 L98

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 7, 2010 | 11:33 PM
  #1  
pletzvet's Avatar
pletzvet
Thread Starter
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 602
Likes: 0
From: North Bay Ontario
Default Another Timing Chain Question: '85 L98

Last fall, just before putting the car away for the winter, I replaced the OEM timing chain. I also replaced the OEM TC cover with a stock replacement cover while I was into it because the original cover had been damaged a few years ago due to a slipped balancer.

My question is: having replaced the OEM timing chain (i.e with the flat links) with a Cloyes double roller NAPA part # 10-3023 is there any chance that the double roller chain is going to have some clearance issues either with the cover or the front casting on the block? After re-assembly, I probably drove about 10 or 15 miles, changed the oil and put it away. Now, I'm just a little concerned because of what I have read about double roller chains needing more clearance that I might have a problem. I didn't hear any unusual noise with the new chain, but just a little concerned.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 12:40 AM
  #2  
Mark85Vett's Avatar
Mark85Vett
Pro
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 515
Likes: 0
From: Nashua NH
Default

no problem. Theres plenty of room behind that cover.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 01:20 AM
  #3  
eguyett1985's Avatar
eguyett1985
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 804
Likes: 5
From: Fresno CA
Default

I used a Cloyes Street Roller on my 85 L98 with a factory timing cover and no clearance issues whatsoever.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 01:55 AM
  #4  
Joe C's Avatar
Joe C
Race Director
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 11,470
Likes: 764
Default

same here - cloyes double roller w/ new GM cover, and no issues on my 85.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 06:52 AM
  #5  
ex-x-fire's Avatar
ex-x-fire
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,232
Likes: 285
Default

I've heard that roller blocks have close clearence problems when using a dbl roller, alittle grinding is required.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 07:53 AM
  #6  
pletzvet's Avatar
pletzvet
Thread Starter
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 602
Likes: 0
From: North Bay Ontario
Default

Ahhh!! - Good to hear. And I presume when ex-x-fire refers to a "roller block", this means with roller lifters? ...which the '85 doesn't have.

Last edited by pletzvet; Mar 8, 2010 at 09:07 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 07:57 AM
  #7  
Pete K's Avatar
Pete K
Race Director
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 12,518
Likes: 19
Default

I have never (yet) seen a block (older or newer) that did not require grinding of the block at the 12 o'clock position. Chain rubs the cast iron, just above the top oil galley.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 09:07 AM
  #8  
pletzvet's Avatar
pletzvet
Thread Starter
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 602
Likes: 0
From: North Bay Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by Pete K
I have never (yet) seen a block (older or newer) that did not require grinding of the block at the 12 o'clock position. Chain rubs the cast iron, just above the top oil galley.
Well now, I'm concerned again - I know that you, Pete K, have been into a lot of these engines. I'm kicking myself, because I didn't check for clearance when I installed the cam gear even though I had heard about the clearance issues before. I'm afraid I'm going to have to go back in and take a look because when I changed the oil shortly afterward, I thought I could see some metal flakes in the oil. I had myself pretty much convinced that it was just my imagination but now...not so sure. I always stick a strong magnet to the base of the oil pan and pull it off while the oil is draining, and never noticed anything before that caught my attention. Darn!
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-9

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 10:23 AM
  #9  
Pete K's Avatar
Pete K
Race Director
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 12,518
Likes: 19
Default

Originally Posted by pletzvet
Well now, I'm concerned again - I know that you, Pete K, have been into a lot of these engines. I'm kicking myself, because I didn't check for clearance when I installed the cam gear even though I had heard about the clearance issues before. I'm afraid I'm going to have to go back in and take a look because when I changed the oil shortly afterward, I thought I could see some metal flakes in the oil. I had myself pretty much convinced that it was just my imagination but now...not so sure. I always stick a strong magnet to the base of the oil pan and pull it off while the oil is draining, and never noticed anything before that caught my attention. Darn!
If I am right, what done is done. It usually "self clearances". It will grind a small groove into the block.
Reply
Old Mar 9, 2010 | 01:15 AM
  #10  
pletzvet's Avatar
pletzvet
Thread Starter
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 602
Likes: 0
From: North Bay Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by Pete K
If I am right, what done is done. It usually "self clearances". It will grind a small groove into the block.
Pete - would you agree that if the new timing chain has ground a small groove into the block that this has put considerable premature stress and wear on rivetted ends the chain and increased the risk substantially of *something going horribly wrong* :-) like a broken chain?

Last edited by pletzvet; Apr 17, 2010 at 12:29 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2010 | 12:34 AM
  #11  
pletzvet's Avatar
pletzvet
Thread Starter
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 602
Likes: 0
From: North Bay Ontario
Default Update

Just an update and to close this thread for future reference - the new double roller timing chain was close, but not touching the block. I estimate that there was between 50 and 75 thousandths of an inch and I removed a little more metal with my die grinder giving me about 3/16ths of an inch. No worries now!
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2010 | 04:11 AM
  #12  
mtwoolford's Avatar
mtwoolford
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,482
Likes: 196
From: folsom california
Default

the only clearance problems I've read about is when people put a double roller timing chain inside a cast aluminum timing chain cover on an LT based engine (when converting over to an electric water pump).
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Another Timing Chain Question: '85 L98





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:24 AM.

story-0
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-1
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-4
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-5
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-7
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE