92 won't start...looking for direction.
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92 won't start...looking for direction.
Just some background...changed out waterpump, opti, plugs, wires, and painted valve covers. I ran the engine a few times after all but the removal and painting of valve covers...ran great no issues.
Go everything back together and everything seems hooked up and connected and now it won't fire. Everything electical seems to be working except anything with the ignition system...turn the key and nothing.
The only bad through everything was the temp sesor on the water pump broke.
Anyone willing to share their knowledge here....After all that work I'm looking for the light at the end of the tunnel. Not to mention I just about finished with all the prep work prior to paint. As you all know it a uneasy feeling with my vette not running and just sitting there.
Go everything back together and everything seems hooked up and connected and now it won't fire. Everything electical seems to be working except anything with the ignition system...turn the key and nothing.
The only bad through everything was the temp sesor on the water pump broke.
Anyone willing to share their knowledge here....After all that work I'm looking for the light at the end of the tunnel. Not to mention I just about finished with all the prep work prior to paint. As you all know it a uneasy feeling with my vette not running and just sitting there.
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Do you have your Factory Service Manual (FSM). Start with the basics, (air, fuel, spark) and troubleshoot from there.
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Did you replace the sensor?
If you have no spark, check all connections again. Especialy the ICM and coil, you might have knocked one loose taking off the valve covers.
You mean it won't fire as in turn over or no fire as in no spark, you need to be as specific as possible, the better info you give, the better the diagnosing is.
Did you check spark at the plugs and then the coil wire and so forth backwards?
If you have no spark, check all connections again. Especialy the ICM and coil, you might have knocked one loose taking off the valve covers.
You mean it won't fire as in turn over or no fire as in no spark, you need to be as specific as possible, the better info you give, the better the diagnosing is.
Did you check spark at the plugs and then the coil wire and so forth backwards?
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To clarify...I haven't checked for spark yet. The engine doesn't turn over. I turn the key and nothing. I'm leaning towards coil/ICM. Whats a good check to see if these are operating correctly?
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Check the wiring harness on passenger side, dead battery, loose battery cable.
Does the dash light up, man give on the details.
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Alright...here's where I went tonight with it...yes dash lights up.
Tried my other key and still nothing with hopes of eliminating the Vat issue. Bought a coil just in case.
Turn the key and nothing...all electronics appear to still be functional...just not ignition system being engaged...
Tried my other key and still nothing with hopes of eliminating the Vat issue. Bought a coil just in case.
Turn the key and nothing...all electronics appear to still be functional...just not ignition system being engaged...
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Alright...here's where I went tonight with it...yes dash lights up.
Tried my other key and still nothing with hopes of eliminating the Vat issue. Bought a coil just in case.
Turn the key and nothing...all electronics appear to still be functional...just not ignition system being engaged...
Tried my other key and still nothing with hopes of eliminating the Vat issue. Bought a coil just in case.
Turn the key and nothing...all electronics appear to still be functional...just not ignition system being engaged...
What is the voltage of the battery?
Did you make sure the cables are tight?
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If the battery's over 11.5, it will spin the starter. But, the starter solenoid's not getting voltage when you turn the key to start. Could be the starter relay, could be VATS.
You have to jump the ADL and pull the codes. That will tell you if there's anything messed up in the VATS.
Codes: 51, 52, 53, 54, 61, 62, 63 are all related to VATS. The will show up as H (history) and will be in the first module, 1.1.
When you have a VATS condition like a pass key error, that dash will light up and when you turn the key to start, nothing will happen.
And the first time you turn the key to "start", you will start the VATS "timeout" timer which will not let you start the car at all (even with a good key) for 5 minutes (sometimes a bit longer, like 8 min).
IF during that 5 minute timeout, you try and start the car again, all you do is reset the timer and you have to wait again.
If there's no codes, then you have diagnois the starter and starter enable relay circuit with the FSM.
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I know the battery cable are on tight and i've had it on a tender for the winter. It has been off however for the past two weeks. I'll check voltage across the battery tonight and first hopeful check.
I also checked the fuses in the passenger side panel and everything was good.
After that i'll have to recruit some help to check voltage at starter.
I also checked the fuses in the passenger side panel and everything was good.
After that i'll have to recruit some help to check voltage at starter.
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So needless to say it was the battery...I should've stuck with the KISS theory and kept it simple. Charged it a bit and it fired right up. I just figured it would still turnover, just slow if it was the battery.
oh well, atleast the next noob in my shoes can find this in the archive.
Thanks for the help all!
oh well, atleast the next noob in my shoes can find this in the archive.
Thanks for the help all!
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So needless to say it was the battery...I should've stuck with the KISS theory and kept it simple. Charged it a bit and it fired right up. I just figured it would still turnover, just slow if it was the battery.
oh well, atleast the next noob in my shoes can find this in the archive.
Thanks for the help all!
oh well, atleast the next noob in my shoes can find this in the archive.
Thanks for the help all!