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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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what do one means when refers to mild cam? what kind of cam is it?

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How many cubes?
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Originally Posted by LD85
How many cubes?
Great explanation!
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usually under 220 @ .050 everyones opinions will differ.

Ive always thought under 250@.050
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Actually a tough question. In very broad terms a cam is judged by two factors, lift and duration of that lift. That is how high off its seat does the valve go and for how long. How high is measured in inches, how long is measured in degrees of crank shaft rotation. A "hot" cam would be one with lots of lift, say .60 inches and 290 degrees of duration. Mild would be something on the order of .48 inches and 260 duration. Please understand these are for illustration only. A cam which is considered hot for a 305 could be mild for a 327 and downright weak for a 350. A cam is nothing more than an iron stick with a bunch of lopsided circles on it but it is by far the most technically exacting piece of an engine. Colleges will devote full semesters to the study of the :Lump Stick".
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Originally Posted by Road Agent
Great explanation!
mild is as mild does

more cubes can handle more duration and lift, so, I will say emphatically,,,,,,and with no doubt,,, it depends
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Isn't a mild cam one that could/should have been bigger!

IMO, a mild cam is one where the intent is to gain something other than maximum power. Some reasons for that may include emissions, driveability (which is a term to describe smoothness off idle), and/or longevity.

To get specific, I'd pick betwen 218-222 duration and .480"-.520" lift as the breakpoints for mild to moderate.

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I agree with everybody above...I just figure about 10-12* more Duration from stock as Mild. With a 350-383 SBC on the street; you get over 230* you're getting pretty Hot.

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Originally Posted by lumij3
what do one means when refers to mild cam? what kind of cam is it?

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OK,.... Hot, Medium, Mild

Like salsa. It has a hint of flavor, but lacks the adequate kick to enjoy.

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great explanations. clear enough to be understood and enlight the topic. Now, in more specific terms, how would a 219/219 cam work in a 350 engine? would you call that mild or is it too agressive for the job? would you go with something milder and what that would be? I never learned so much about any car I have owned than this corvette and that thanks to this site and the member that makes it.

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How are you measuring the duration? Is that seat to seat, .006 or .050? All of these are measurement points used by different cam grinders. As a check point, for years and years the classic cam was the "three quarter cam" that is 3/4 rotation of the crank or 270 degrees. By this standard 219 is very anemic to the point I would suspect the number to be wrong.
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Originally Posted by lumij3
in more specific terms, how would a 219/219 cam work in a 350 engine?
Describe the rest of the engine, use, color, aroma, and flavor. Include it's measure of spicy!
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Originally Posted by Muffin
How are you measuring the duration? Is that seat to seat, .006 or .050? All of these are measurement points used by different cam grinders. As a check point, for years and years the classic cam was the "three quarter cam" that is 3/4 rotation of the crank or 270 degrees. By this standard 219 is very anemic to the point I would suspect the number to be wrong.

It is a LPE 219/219 .560/.560 HR112 cam.
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Originally Posted by GREGGPENN
Describe the rest of the engine, use, color, aroma, and flavor. Include it's measure of spicy!
smells like burning oil. I hope tha's not a problem
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Originally Posted by lumij3
It is a LPE 219/219 .560/.560 HR112 cam.
If you decide you don't want this cam anymore, I'll take it. It works great with the SuperRam intake. Which is what I have on the engine right now.
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What heads do you have?Will the springs handle the lift?
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Originally Posted by ch@0s
What heads do you have?Will the springs handle the lift?
I have the AFR TPiS heads. I have not been able to find any specs on it. I am going to be contacting TPiS for info today.
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AFR has all the specs you want...WW.

http://www.airflowresearch.com/index.php?cPath=24_29
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Not sure I would call that a mild cam in a 350. If so it is on the upper fringes of mild. With the right intake and heads it will do very nicely.
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Originally Posted by Muffin
Not sure I would call that a mild cam in a 350. If so it is on the upper fringes of mild. With the right intake and heads it will do very nicely.
Like Greg said mild is a perspective. A mild cam to me might not be mild to you. The question is what are you going to do with the car how do you want it to idle etc..

Here is what I consider a mild cam:
218/224 @.050/495/503 lift with 1.5 rockers 112 lsa
yours has more lift
here is what it sounds like in a stock l98 car with flowmasters
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