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Old May 24, 2010 | 11:41 PM
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I am full aware that the thermostat does not get rid of heat.235 is just kinda scary for me.Plus that extreme heat cycling is not good on the heat gaskets-ambiant temp to 235 & back constintly.The 160 degree thermostat did help with the temp rising slower but thats all it did.If my engine got to 260 degrees & was not leaking coolant I would get a waterhose & spray water on the radiator.Shutting the engine down at 260 degrees,the engine temp will continue to climb
When you shut the heat source off, the temperature falls. Heat water to just before the boiling temperature and then shut the heat off, the water never boils, its temperature starts falling. Best pay attention to GM!
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Old May 24, 2010 | 11:44 PM
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When you shut the heat source off, the temperature falls. Heat water to just before the boiling temperature and then shut the heat off, the water never boils, its temperature starts falling. Best pay attention to GM!
Sorry but you are wrong.Its called heat soak,all cars do it.The temp of the engine WILL rise after the engine is shut off.If you don't believe me do some research on it.
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Old May 25, 2010 | 12:03 AM
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Those are normal temps with the AC off. The fans run in tandem. Hi and Lo speed.

My LT4 runs about 200 with the AC on. I just put in my new DeWitt but havent driven it yet as the engine is out. Will be interesting to see if it makes a change.

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Old May 25, 2010 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 94vettelover2
Sorry but you are wrong.Its called heat soak,all cars do it.The temp of the engine WILL rise after the engine is shut off.If you don't believe me do some research on it.
The temperature will rise only if the coolant is hotter than the block. If the coolant is cooler than the block then the engine will cool off after it is shut
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Old May 25, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 94vettelover2
Sorry but you are wrong.Its called heat soak,all cars do it.The temp of the engine WILL rise after the engine is shut off.If you don't believe me do some research on it.
I have to agree with the heat soak theory. It happens in the vett as well as my 280ZX and other cars. All though I agree with the pot of boiling water theory, the engine is different than the pot for reasons stated in other posts.

I also think the Dewitt is a good investment. The bigger the radiator, the better it is going to get rid of the heat. But whatever you have, you got to put air thru it for it to work.

About 6 or 7 years ago I installed the switch to turn on the secondary fan at my discretion. Try to keep things if stopped in traffic under 210 and definitely under 220. I do have the GM radiator but is a bit wider that the original radiator which was replaced 6 years back.

I run 193 on the open road till it gets 90-100* and all bets are off. I will run about 200-205 or so when it's just that hot which it is in Orlando. With that kind of heat off the road the cooling system is working as hard as it can.

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Old May 25, 2010 | 11:49 AM
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Once the motor shuts off the coolant has no way to dissipate heat it absorbs it from the block upon shutting off. Takes awhile before things cool off.
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Old May 25, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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I am talking about the entire system, block AND coolant. You shut the engine off and the entire system temperature falls. Yes the coolant stops circulating and thus picks up heat from the block, but when you shut the heat source off (the engine), the systems temperature starts downward! Otherwise you are violating the second law of thermodynamics and that ain't happening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
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Old May 25, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jfb
When you shut the heat source off, the temperature falls. Heat water to just before the boiling temperature and then shut the heat off, the water never boils, its temperature starts falling. Best pay attention to GM!
Your analogy sucks. The temp will continue to rise for a short while due to the heat in the engine continuing to transfer.

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Old May 25, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MK 82
Your analogy sucks. The temp will continue to rise for a short while due to the heat in the engine continuing to transfer.

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As per heat transfer principals:

If the block is hotter than the coolant the heat will transfer into the coolant. Once the block and the coolant are in equilibrium with each other they will begin to cool (at different rates...liquid vs. metal).

This can also be interpreted as the block will immediately start cooling, while the coolant temp will increase slightly before starting to decline.
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Old May 25, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Driver84
As per heat transfer principals:

If the block is hotter than the coolant the heat will transfer into the coolant. Once the block and the coolant are in equilibrium with each other they will begin to cool (at different rates...liquid vs. metal).

This can also be interpreted as the block will immediately start cooling, while the coolant temp will increase slightly before starting to decline.
My answer was on the seventh grade level.

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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 94vettelover2
The fans are coming on at the correct temp(228 degrees) but even when the fan is on the temps still creep up.Sometimes up to 240 degrees.It happened one time.Now anytime the temp gets to 230-235 I turn on the heater which brings temps down quickly.Is anyone elses Lt-1 running like this in hot weather?Sorry to hijack
I have a 1993 and mine runs at the same temps. I was actually searching the forum to find out possible ways to make it run cooler. But I'm told they run hot.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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if the fans are coming on at the right temp but the temp continues to rise then I'd think the rad needs cleaning.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jnealg
if the fans are coming on at the right temp but the temp continues to rise then I'd think the rad needs cleaning.
Is it possiable to clean without taking the rad out? Also is it wise to use like a coil cleaner?
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 94vettelover2
I am full aware that the thermostat does not get rid of heat.235 is just kinda scary for me.Plus that extreme heat cycling is not good on the heat gaskets-ambiant temp to 235 & back constintly.The 160 degree thermostat did help with the temp rising slower but thats all it did.If my engine got to 260 degrees & was not leaking coolant I would get a waterhose & spray water on the radiator.Shutting the engine down at 260 degrees,the engine temp will continue to climb
I am having the same problem right now as you.Maybe we are the wrong and this is the way things are? Sure doesn't seem right to me!!!!!
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 02:40 AM
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i have a lt1 with stock system except for a Dewitts rad. The Dewitts is a great rad. but with the stock system it was about 2 dg. cooler than orig rad. It does cool down faster when cruising (from stop and go traffic)
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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Heck, my 94 LT1 has seen 244 oil temp and at least 231 on the coolant. I guess that's ok. It makes me oooggeey.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ROADJOCKY
I am having the same problem right now as you.Maybe we are the wrong and this is the way things are? Sure doesn't seem right to me!!!!!
Actually my car operates perfect or as designed.The cooling fan comes on at 228 degrees & the second fan comes on at 236 degrees & my car doesn't overheat as these temps are normal.I still don't like my car running this hot but will address this issue when the funds are right.Make sure your car doesn't have any coolant leaks & let the temp climb & see if your car does the same as mine.Its scary at first,just make sure you let your car idle in the driveway with a garden hose close,that way you can spray water in the opening for the radiator to cool it down if the temp climbs to 245 or more.Don't let it get hotter than that & do NOT shut it down if it does,just spray water at radiator from the opening below front bumper until temp goes down then shut it down.Also verify that the cooling fans are coming on.Let us know what happens
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 07:52 PM
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I see this thread has been revived, so I will just add emphasis on how important it is to make sure your radiator (behind the A/C condenser) is clean of debris...Taking it out and cleaning it will most likely need to be done every several years.
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