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Old May 31, 2010 | 10:59 AM
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What Spicer u joints do I need for the half shafts and the drive shaft??....sealed units, Thanks
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Old May 31, 2010 | 12:38 PM
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ACDelco Half-shaft:

 Half-shaft - Spicer 5-799X (current replacement), aka GM #89059111 http://www.neapco.com/pdf/Performanc...ed-9901155.pdf

 ACDELCO Part # 45U0400 {#89049301}JOINT,RR WHL DRV SHF INR/OTR UNIVERSAL -; LEFT/RIGHT HAND; OPTIONAL ANTI-GALVANIC U-JOINT FOR USE IN ALUMINUM YOKES; PREMIUM;
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Old May 31, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by pmihaltian
ACDelco Half-shaft:

 Half-shaft - Spicer 5-799X (current replacement), aka GM #89059111 http://www.neapco.com/pdf/Performanc...ed-9901155.pdf

 ACDELCO Part # 45U0400 {#89049301}JOINT,RR WHL DRV SHF INR/OTR UNIVERSAL -; LEFT/RIGHT HAND; OPTIONAL ANTI-GALVANIC U-JOINT FOR USE IN ALUMINUM YOKES; PREMIUM;
Nope, you don't want the 5-799X. They don't have the anti-galvanic coated caps. You want ujoints intended for aluminum shafts, not steel.

And from what I remember, I wonder if those AC Delco are Spicer. As I've seen those mentioned as an alternative to Spicer.

From what has been posted, Spicer has discontinued the ujoints for the Corvette.

Here are the numbers you want to look for if you can find some NOS Spicer coated ujoints:

5-786X for aluminum driveshaft (1310 series)
5-800X for aluminum half shafts (1350 series)

I went with Neapco "Brute Force" ujoints from Advance:

1-0626BF for aluminum driveshaft (1310 series)
2-0617BF for aluminum half shafts (1350 series)
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Originally Posted by pmihaltian
UNIVERSAL -; LEFT/RIGHT HAND
You can use right hands on both sides.

Just flip it over so the arrow faces towards the direction of rotation.

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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
You can use right hands on both sides.

Just flip it over so the arrow faces towards the direction of rotation.

Never heard of before that the ujoints had to be put in a certain way other than if you got greaseable joints.
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I just ordered the driveshaft units from Rockauto

PRECISION Part # 369C {U Joint - Premium}
Optional Anti-Galvanic U-Joint for use in Aluminum Yokes; Position: I1- At Transmission; I2- At Rear Axle
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
Nope, you don't want the 5-799X. They don't have the anti-galvanic coated caps. You want ujoints intended for aluminum shafts, not steel.

And from what I remember, I wonder if those AC Delco are Spicer. As I've seen those mentioned as an alternative to Spicer.

From what has been posted, Spicer has discontinued the ujoints for the Corvette.

Here are the numbers you want to look for if you can find some NOS Spicer coated ujoints:

5-786X for aluminum driveshaft (1310 series)
5-800X for aluminum half shafts (1350 series)

I went with Neapco "Brute Force" ujoints from Advance:

1-0626BF for aluminum driveshaft (1310 series)
2-0617BF for aluminum half shafts (1350 series)
Let us know where you can purchase the 5-800X u-joints as these seem pretty difficult to find.
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Originally Posted by pmihaltian
Let us know where you can purchase the 5-800X u-joints as these seem pretty difficult to find.
They're discontinued. The only way to get them is if you find them sitting on a shelf at a driveshaft shop or someone who has some extras they've held onto. I doubt you'd have good luck finding some.

Though, some don't like the seal that Spicer started using as it can crack. I'd just look at the Neapco Brute Force. As you can get those at Advance and are supposed to be a good joint as it is my understanding that Neapco has been around longer than Spicer.
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
They're discontinued. The only way to get them is if you find them sitting on a shelf at a driveshaft shop or someone who has some extras they've held onto. I doubt you'd have good luck finding some.
Oh, that's what I thought. Dana/Spicer says that the 5-799X is the current replacement part for our C4s.

FWIW
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Originally Posted by pmihaltian
Oh, that's what I thought. Dana/Spicer says that the 5-799X is the current replacement part for our C4s.

FWIW
You can use that joint as the difference is the 5-800X has a coating on the cap to prevent galvanization since it is going in an aluminum shaft.

But you have to decide if you're willing to risk the cap corroding to the shaft if you go with the noncoated Spicer 5-799X joint. Sure would suck if the next time you replace the joints and you can't press the caps out or it ends up damaging the shaft trying to press corroded caps out. I'd say GM went with coated caps for a reason as they cost more than non coated caps. It might not hurt to call Spicer to find out why they discontinued the 5-800X joint since the C4 is supposed to have a coated cap.

Neapco Brute Force ujoints have the coated caps for aluminum shafts. That's what I'm going with. Plus you don't have to worry about the seal cracking like you do with the Spicer joints.
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
Never heard of before that the ujoints had to be put in a certain way other than if you got greaseable joints.
Yep. Just like the half shafts.

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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
Yep. Just like the half shafts.

Who puts directional arrows on their ujoints?

My Neapco Brute Force ujoints don't have arrows. I called Neapco, and they said there is no right or wrong way to put the ujoint in as it didn't matter which way you pressed them in.

I also called Spicer. They said their joints don't have arrows on them and said it didn't matter which way you pressed in a non greasable joint. But did say some race guys like to put the greasable joints in a certain way.

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Originally Posted by pmihaltian
Oh, that's what I thought. Dana/Spicer says that the 5-799X is the current replacement part for our C4s.

FWIW
That 5-799X set is what I'm currently running since the end of last year. I'll let you guys know if they implode from the galvanization effects.

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If you need u-joint part #s and info, here are a couple threads that Rainman is parroting from.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-g...d-to-know.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...-u-joints.html
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OK, here is what I learned from my experience with the U-joints on my driveshafts.

Our U-joints come without Zerk (grease) fittings. Don't replace them with ones with Zerk fittings. I did and found that a grease-gun fitting WILL NOT fit on the Zerk fitting after the drive shaft has been installed in the car. Naturally, I had to do it all over again.

Lesson learned---the hard way.



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I found it easier just to replace the half shaft... hahahaha.

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I found it easier just to replace the half shaft... hahahaha.

How did that happen? From the pics, it doesn't look like the ujoint broke.
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Originally Posted by Bad Karma
I found it easier just to replace the half shaft... hahahaha.

Now that's some serious TORQUE !
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Doing the ujoints in the halfshaft wasn't really bad. Make sure you tap them on both sides with a hammer/chisel in the opposite direction you pressed it to loosen it up.

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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
How did that happen? From the pics, it doesn't look like the ujoint broke.
No u-joints intact. Full throttle at night. Pot hole or some thing of the like. Hit it tire came off the pavement and when it came back down grabbed and twisted the half-shaft in two.
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