Wish your C4 Frame was Stiffer?
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Wish your C4 Frame was Stiffer?
I might have your answer..
Currently on my Car are a set of frame brace to help give the C4 a solid frame feel like the C5. These will bolt in any post-86 (uses front X brace bolt points), no drilling required, although there might be an extra hole in the brace that would require one hole to be drilled but would be optional. These braces can be left on while removing exhaust ETC, it is not a cross brace of any type.. The Brace was designed by Gordon Killebrew..
These braces are NOT lower then my exhaust. they are similar to F-body Sub frame connectors (in mounting) and are not X-Braces
So far I have driven 100 miles with the top on but the car is definitely more solid then it was prior.
Need to drive with the top off to see how well it is
in the picture below the car is dirty from rain..
you can see the head of one bolt here on the left and the rod (in black) running length of car..
few more of the one side..
REAR Mount:
Front Mount:
I would post who makes them, but it does not look like they are a vendor here anymore
Currently on my Car are a set of frame brace to help give the C4 a solid frame feel like the C5. These will bolt in any post-86 (uses front X brace bolt points), no drilling required, although there might be an extra hole in the brace that would require one hole to be drilled but would be optional. These braces can be left on while removing exhaust ETC, it is not a cross brace of any type.. The Brace was designed by Gordon Killebrew..
These braces are NOT lower then my exhaust. they are similar to F-body Sub frame connectors (in mounting) and are not X-Braces
So far I have driven 100 miles with the top on but the car is definitely more solid then it was prior.
Need to drive with the top off to see how well it is
in the picture below the car is dirty from rain..
you can see the head of one bolt here on the left and the rod (in black) running length of car..
few more of the one side..
REAR Mount:
Front Mount:
I would post who makes them, but it does not look like they are a vendor here anymore
Last edited by -=Jeff=-; Jun 14, 2010 at 08:22 AM.
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Looks cool!! PM me where I can find these Jeff, since you cant post it.
Can you jack on these?
I would like to hear some track results if anyone has any.
Can you jack on these?
I would like to hear some track results if anyone has any.
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those are all the pictures I have at the moment..
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The company use to be a sponsor here, not sure if they still are but that are located in Illinois..
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More info with the top off please & where can i get a set of these ??? PM VETTENUT94@CHARTER.NET Thanks
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I have the Vendor info posted on 2 other corvette sites..
I would love to post links or info but don't want to go against the rules
More info with the top off will come once weather permits for me to do so
I would love to post links or info but don't want to go against the rules
More info with the top off will come once weather permits for me to do so
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Jeff,
Richard, a friend of mine here in town also has a set of those installed on his 94 he obtained from Gordon.He swears by them making the car stiffer.Haven't personally rode in his car yet to feel the difference but the design definitely looks like a cleaner an neater install versus the x brace and ground clearance doesn't appear to be affected since they basically bolt to the side of the frame mounts.His threaded mounting rods look to be anodized with SS threaded turn buckles an locking nuts at both ends for length adjustment.
Rick
Richard, a friend of mine here in town also has a set of those installed on his 94 he obtained from Gordon.He swears by them making the car stiffer.Haven't personally rode in his car yet to feel the difference but the design definitely looks like a cleaner an neater install versus the x brace and ground clearance doesn't appear to be affected since they basically bolt to the side of the frame mounts.His threaded mounting rods look to be anodized with SS threaded turn buckles an locking nuts at both ends for length adjustment.
Rick
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This wouldn't happen to be the rumored ones said to be made by Vette2Vette Corvette Salvage? Can these be used with the Vert x-Frame in place? If so, I definitely would be interested.
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My exhaust is lower then the braces and my car is lowered about 1-1.5"
Cool Deal!! I need to tweak mine a bit and see how it does..
Don't know, but I have a feeling that one will interfere with the other on the front mounting
Jeff,
Richard, a friend of mine here in town also has a set of those installed on his 94 he obtained from Gordon.He swears by them making the car stiffer.Haven't personally rode in his car yet to feel the difference but the design definitely looks like a cleaner an neater install versus the x brace and ground clearance doesn't appear to be affected since they basically bolt to the side of the frame mounts.His threaded mounting rods look to be anodized with SS threaded turn buckles an locking nuts at both ends for length adjustment.
Rick
Richard, a friend of mine here in town also has a set of those installed on his 94 he obtained from Gordon.He swears by them making the car stiffer.Haven't personally rode in his car yet to feel the difference but the design definitely looks like a cleaner an neater install versus the x brace and ground clearance doesn't appear to be affected since they basically bolt to the side of the frame mounts.His threaded mounting rods look to be anodized with SS threaded turn buckles an locking nuts at both ends for length adjustment.
Rick
Don't know, but I have a feeling that one will interfere with the other on the front mounting
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How much weight do they add?
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hmm... So I guess this would be useless for someone with a vert that already has an X-brace or is it somehow an improvement over the stock piece?
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Just curious as to how this works. Dont the frame rails run front to back? How is adding, what is essentially another rail, going to stiffen the chassis? I can see it making a difference for launches but torsional stiffness would be the same. The idea behind the x brace is to link the two sides together to increas the torsional stiffness. This idea is still only one side.
Im not trying to bash the product, just trying to understand the reasoning behind it. Perhaps there is something I am missing.
Im not trying to bash the product, just trying to understand the reasoning behind it. Perhaps there is something I am missing.