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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 12:46 AM
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I had something unusual happen Thursday in my 94 M6. I made a "spirited" entrance onto an Interstate on ramp. It was a very hard right turn and the turn is banked the wrong way. The car cornered very well, but as I accelerated coming off the turn the motor seemed to almost shut off for a under a second.

Has this happened to anyone else?

I had about 1/4 tank of gas at the time. Is it possible that the fuel sloshed to the side and it ran out of fuel for an instant? Or perhaps is it something else?

After a couple more days of driving, it has been running great with no other glitches like that.

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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by QCVette
I had about 1/4 tank of gas at the time. Is it possible that the fuel sloshed to the side and it ran out of fuel for an instant?

GM cheaped out and didn't put any baffles around the pump pickup.
Will get same result on hard accel with less than 1/4 tank as fuel moves away from the pickup
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 08:44 PM
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It is normal, all the C4s I autocross with usually run near a full tank to keep that from happening, they starve for gas when they get as low as 1/4 tank.
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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Did some years not get the yellow tray the sock fits into? Mine will go pretty low before cutting out. 2 bars were left, showing reserve.
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 09:29 PM
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Same here.
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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On my 86 I run with a full tank . Runs differant even with as little as half a tank .( for track days)
I keep it full to keep the weight bias
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 01:41 AM
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Yep, same thing happens to me as well @ 1/2 tank. Very fustrating when you want to pass that smug prius while going around a coner only to have it buck and sound like crap doing so.
I've been thinking about making a low CG tank out of aluminum that would sit between the exhaust in place of the spare tire/Jack. I figure you could drop 30 or so lbs. 6 inches lower on the chassis and eliminate fuel starvation while cornering.
Anybody else have thought of or tried this befor?
Lower CG=greater rear end stability
depending on design, increased fuel capacity
improved fuel pick up
Just a thought of mine
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 03:02 AM
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Did some years not get the yellow tray the sock fits into? Mine will go pretty low before cutting out. 2 bars were left, showing reserve.
Would this be the same mod the SCCA spec racers used back in the day?

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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
Would this be the same mod the SCCA spec racers used back in the day?

No. Mine has the tray. Still cuts out below 1/4 tank when I'm on a road course and R compound tires. Don't know about street tires.
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Originally Posted by QCVette
The car cornered very well, but as I accelerated coming off the turn the motor seemed to almost shut off for a under a second.
Any ideas?
Still running the stock fuel pump or have you changed it out?

I've seen very similar starvation situations occur where the fuel pump was changed but the old in-tank harness/fuel pump connectors were reused. Changed the connectors on the harness....problem solved. As the fuel sloshed around in the tank (you'll get a more agressive slosh the lower the level of the tank) it would wiggle the wires/connectors slightly and interupt the connection to fuel pump.

My advice would be to change the electrical connectors on the fuel pump harness or replace the harness....then go hit that same on ramp.

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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by engle1147
I've seen very similar starvation situations occur where the fuel pump was changed but the old in-tank harness/fuel pump connectors were reused. Changed the connectors on the harness....problem solved. As the fuel sloshed around in the tank (you'll get a more agressive slosh the lower the level of the tank) it would wiggle the wires/connectors slightly and interupt the connection to fuel pump.
Very very interesting. My wife's 88 autocross car was fine with 1/8th tank, it has the yellow plastic tray. But after putting in a partsladi sender assembly and a new pump it's very sensitive to fuel level. I swear I tried every sock orientation. Which direction should the sock point on a car with the tray? Sounds like next I may try working on the contacts.... Very very interesting, she's been stuck keeping a 1/2 tank or better. 20 or 30 lbs matters!

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Mine does it around a quarter tank.
As a garage queen, I top it off after weekend use and always set the trip odometer with a "not to exceed" over 200 miles before a pit stop on long excursions. I just don't trust my old Atari gas gauge.
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Originally Posted by batchman
I swear I tried every sock orientation. Which direction should the sock point on a car with the tray?

Thanks,
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The longer side of the strainer sock should aim toward the bottom/rear of the tank...the sock should come into contact with the plastic tray.

Clean all the electrical contact points up on the assembly as best you can and change (buy or make your own) the harness. If you end up making your own harness add some extra length to the wires that run to the fuel pump so that they can be secured to fuel pump tube with several tie-wraps (the black ones) to prevent future wire wiggle.

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my 95 does it, but it seems fine if it has a 1/2 a tank still.
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