Need help.....89 caliper rebuild/replace?
Are you suggesting that you do not have any knowledge of how to bleed brakes???
If that is the case....please go slow and allow us to help you as brakes are nothing to get it wrong on the first try.
Your Master Cylinder has two opaque cups with black lids sitting on top of them and it is located on the drivers side firewall......Just in front of where you'd be looking while sitting in the drivers seat.
Once you open these cups you'll see fluid....or your case where fluid used to be. That Fluid will be dark brown.....all that fluid needs to go away and it will as you bleed the brakes and add new fluid.........for this job you might as well go buy the large 32Oz bottle of DOT 3 brake fluid.
I am going to back off at this point and give you a chance to correct me if I read your initial post incorrectly. Please tell me if I am talking down to you or you feel I am being condescending.
Honestly, Not knowing where brake fluid is added is a big red flag for me hearing that you've taken caliper lines loose.
Bleeding brakes is a technique that is difficult to relay over the net, however, seeing it done and understanding about a singe air bubble in the lines will mean failure....you can learn to bleed brakes with help......but I would like to hear from you first if you've done such a procedure prior to now
Last edited by jhammons01; Jun 26, 2010 at 05:51 PM.
Are you suggesting that you do not have any knowledge of how to bleed brakes???
If that is the case....please go slow and allow us to help you as brakes are nothing to get it wrong on the first try.
Your Master Cylinder has two opaque cups with black lids sitting on top of them and it is located on the drivers side firewall......Just in front of where you'd be looking while sitting in the drivers seat.
Once you open these cups you'll see fluid....or your case where fluid used to be. That Fluid will be dark brown.....all that fluid needs to go away and it will as you bleed the brakes and add new fluid.........for this job you might as well go buy the large 32Oz bottle of DOT 3 brake fluid.
I am going to back off at this point and give you a chance to correct me if I read your initial post incorrectly. Please tell me if I am talking down to you or you feel I am being condescending.
Honestly, Not knowing where brake fluid is added is a big red flag for me hearing that you've taken caliper lines loose.
Bleeding brakes is a technique that is difficult to relay over the net, however, seeing it done and understanding about a singe air bubble in the lines will mean failure....you can learn to bleed brakes with help......but I would like to hear from you first if you've done such a procedure prior to now
Last edited by dboldt; Jun 26, 2010 at 11:59 PM.
Good........thanks for clearing it up for me. Asking questions when you are just needing a sanity check is always great with me. I do it as well. Some times it makes it sound as if I am not knowledgeable as to what I am doing when in reality I am just needing a second pair of eyes or another prospective on what I am doing.......
That being said, other than the fluid making a mess, I wouldn't worry about it at all...it is old and nasty.....let it run out if it wants.
It is corrosive to paint etc. so watch where it goes
Just get it all back in place (calipers, pads, brake lines) and then worry about the bleeding process from that point on.....
Sorry for questioning you
As you set out to rebuild the calipers you will come to the point of having to get the pistons out of the cylinders. One of my blowguns has a rubber conical snout on it and it makes a good enough seal on the brake line in hole on the caliper to blow the cylinders out. But I've found that no matter the condition of the caliper on a twin piston caliper there will always be one that moves first. If you let it blow all the way out before the other is out then the other one will be harder to remove. So use about 10-15 PSI of air and use a small block or old pad or even your hand to hold back the pistons so that they both come out together.
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That being said, other than the fluid making a mess, I wouldn't worry about it at all...it is old and nasty.....let it run out if it wants.
It is corrosive to paint etc. so watch where it goes
Just get it all back in place (calipers, pads, brake lines) and then worry about the bleeding process from that point on.....
Just taking everything apart and letting it drain is asking for trouble.
I do one caliper at a time, then bleed that line(using Speedbleers) before moving on and disassembling another caliper or line. Minimal fluid loss=minimal bleeding problems. If you want to replace all the fluid(except ABS) do it thru a controlled bleeding process.
There was ONE time I had trouble with a Hydraulic line......it was on the front disk brake on my '84 Kawasaki KX125........and the issue was that THEY had a design flaw that captured air right at the top of the line by the MC.....you had to crack that connector and let the last tiny bubbles out at that point. Once someone showed me that trick, I got a firm front brake.
That was the only time I've not been able to use the "Pump, Hold, release" command, method to bleed a simple line.
Saving the old fluid is a futile practice.....once the system is breached at any point....a full "proper" bleed is in order from that point forward. How much air is in the line makes no difference, Getting it all out does.
Good........thanks for clearing it up for me. Asking questions when you are just needing a sanity check is always great with me. I do it as well. Some times it makes it sound as if I am not knowledgeable as to what I am doing when in reality I am just needing a second pair of eyes or another prospective on what I am doing.......
That being said, other than the fluid making a mess, I wouldn't worry about it at all...it is old and nasty.....let it run out if it wants.
It is corrosive to paint etc. so watch where it goes
Just get it all back in place (calipers, pads, brake lines) and then worry about the bleeding process from that point on.....
Sorry for questioning you
As you set out to rebuild the calipers you will come to the point of having to get the pistons out of the cylinders. One of my blowguns has a rubber conical snout on it and it makes a good enough seal on the brake line in hole on the caliper to blow the cylinders out. But I've found that no matter the condition of the caliper on a twin piston caliper there will always be one that moves first. If you let it blow all the way out before the other is out then the other one will be harder to remove. So use about 10-15 PSI of air and use a small block or old pad or even your hand to hold back the pistons so that they both come out together.
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