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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 04:21 PM
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Okay, trying to figure out what the problem is with my 84 corvette and not starting/running. So far replaced old gas, had injectors serviced by FIC and replaced fuel filter.
Today I was going to remove the fuel line at the front throttle body to check pressure and flow. Pickup a 5/8" line wrench and went to work. The 5/8" nut is threaded into a 3/4"brass fitting that is then threaded into the TB. I cannot get the 5/8" fitting loose in face I started to flatten it out before stopping. At first I thought it was turning, wrong.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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Try putting as much pressure as you dare on the fitting and at the same time tap the wrench with a hammer. Sometimes the shock will break things loose.

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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Moon86
Try putting as much pressure as you dare on the fitting and at the same time tap the wrench with a hammer. Sometimes the shock will break things loose.

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I'll give that a try, keeping my fingers crossed at the same time, I need a break here.

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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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Tapping works. It may take a couple of minutes that seem like an hour but it works. Also, are you using a line wrench?
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 06:19 PM
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Some folks use a line wrench and then put a vise grip on the outside of the line wrench

Picture the jaws being closed by the vice grip
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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A good quality line wrench is the best thing you can get.
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AlFossum
Pickup a 5/8" line wrench and went to work.
I think he already has a line wrench.

The guy that gave the "tapping w/hammer" advice was good advice...as was the vice grips on the line wrench. IMO, line wrenches are a joke. I've always had better luck w/a good open end than a good line wrench. I had MAC tools Line wrenches and they were garbage. Threw them away.

Another thing that works is a modest amount of heat from a propane torch. Use common sense and reason here; it's a fuel line. Heat quick, get flame away, break nut loose fast.

Next question I have is: Why are you trying to loosen that nut? I thought you were checking fuel pressure?

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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
I think he already has a line wrench

Another thing that works is a modest amount of heat from a propane torch. Use common sense and reason here; it's a fuel line. Heat quick, get flame away, break nut loose fast.

Next question I have is: Why are you trying to loosen that nut? I thought you were checking fuel pressure?
That was the plan, remove the fuel line and install a pressure gauge. Have a no start/run situation. Car has been sitting for several years so my first thought was bad gas. Siphoned it out put new back in with sea-foam. Still not running, can get the car to start by squirting a little gas down each throttle body. Car starts then I have to feather the gas pedal like crazy. Stop with the gas pedal and it kills.
So far I have drained the old gas, replaced the fuel filter and had the injectors service.
If the problem isn't fuel pump or sock. Next step will be tearing into the throttle bodies.
Did go out and tried the hammer trick, no joy. Maybe like someone said have to tap on it longer. Also thought about some anti-seize spray.



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Originally Posted by AlFossum
Did go out and tried the hammer trick, no joy. Maybe like someone said have to tap on it longer. Also thought about some anti-seize spray.



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Tap it harder. Use more heat.

Better yet, avoid taking it apart for now. Follow that hard line down to where it meets the black rubber hose. Un-clamp that hose, and "T" in to the fuel feed line at that point. Easy, quick and cheap.
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
Tap it harder. Use more heat.

Better yet, avoid taking it apart for now. Follow that hard line down to where it meets the black rubber hose. Un-clamp that hose, and "T" in to the fuel feed line at that point. Easy, quick and cheap.
Sounds like a good idea. Seeing as I just replaced the fuel filter should be and easy enough job.
The whole heat thing on the gas line makes me nervous I must say

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I hear ya. Use that hose instead. Let us know what the results are!
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I think alot of crossfire owners are under the assumption that they have to check fuel pressure between the TBIs.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ex-x-fire
I think alot of crossfire owners are under the assumption that they have to check fuel pressure between the TBIs.
I have seen posts that refer to just that. At this time I'm just want to verify the fuel pump is working correctly. If that checks out I will move to the throttle bodies and look at servicing them. At that point there really isn't much else that I'm aware of.

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Originally Posted by ex-x-fire
I think alot of crossfire owners are under the assumption that they have to check fuel pressure between the TBIs.
A lot of them are...but that ain't true. As long as you are consistant in where you take your reading, and it's up stream of the FPR and down stream of the filter, it is sufficient.
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