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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 07:08 PM
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I have a 92 LT1with 82,000. Always been maintained and no evidence of being beaten. Has good oil press. @ idle about 60 lbs. cold, 45 lbs warm.
@ 3000 rpm under load, sounds like wrist pins are loose. Maybe even rod bearings. Oil pressure is always good. Once engine is warm, both coolant and oil temp, problem seems to go away. Are these engines normally just noisey until they reach oper. temp? I am guilty of running a lower octane fuel from time to time. Problem doesn't seem to be getting worse. Runs great and will still pin you back in your seat. Anyone have any thoughts?

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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 09:03 PM
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45 psi warm,seems high to me
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 09:28 PM
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I'm just guessing at that. It's right at the middle increment or a little above. I just hate the thought of tearing this engine down to try to find the issue. Doesn't use any oil. Runs smoothly. I just can't tell if it's a wrist pin, rod bearing or in the valve train. Sitting still, you can rev it up and you won't hear a thing. On the road is when it's noticeable at about 3000 rpm and above.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 11:38 PM
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Possibly spark knock or detonation ... LT1's have 10.2 compression and REQUIRE 91 or better octane ...............
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 11:59 PM
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Mine makes noise (almost like light tapping but not really) when its super cold out (around freezing) when you bring the rpms up above 2500ish... I dont think anything is wrong, its just cold out... But when its warm or during the spring, summer and the fall it doenst make any noise...
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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I'll bet it's piston slap. It's pretty common in LT engines and even the early LS engines. It's not a concern though. It just sounds bad. My 96 T/A has always had this problem. It started shortly after i bought it new. I just baby it until the engine warms up.

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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 11:49 AM
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Yes, It does sound bad to the trained ear. It seems once it gets good and warmed up (not just coolant temp, but oil temp) It goes away. Thanks for the info..

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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Warren Seale
I'll bet it's piston slap. It's pretty common in LT engines and even the early LS engines. It's not a concern though. It just sounds bad. My 96 T/A has always had this problem. It started shortly after i bought it new. I just baby it until the engine warms up.

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I had a new 4.8 engine put in my 2002 GMC because of piston slap.It was very bad even when warm.the dealer did it because I went to the BBB.
I did not know the 350 had the same problem
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I have often heard this term "Piston slap". I'm not sure exactly what it is. I've had vehicles with wrist pins that were a little worn and still ran forever with no problem. They were just a noisy engine. Is this the same thing?
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Piston slap they are referring too especially in the LS engines, is the piston is actually a little bit smaller than the bore and slightly out of round compared to the bore. This is to compensate for the expansion of the aluminum when it gets hot. Usually this is a non-issue but can be one from time to time.
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:12 PM
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Ah-Ha. Now I understand the term. Thanks for the feedback.
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:44 PM
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FWIW.....my old 92 LT-1 had the same problem. It was determined to be exactly what has been pointed out....piston slap. From then on I just took a little extra time to warm up the engine and stopped worrying.
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by C409
Possibly spark knock or detonation ... LT1's have 10.2 compression and REQUIRE 91 or better octane ...............
Start putting the best/highest octane fuel in your vette.These engines are designed to use thehigher octane so stop putting the cheap stuff inDo this & see if problem goes away.I never had this issue/noise with my Lt1.Let us know if this fixes your problem
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Piston slap is a fairly common occurance in performance engines due to increased piston to bore clearance. Usual methods to quiet piston noise are tighter clearances, low taper wide skirts and offset pins all of which will actually hurt performance. If the noise is always there after a cold start but quiets when the engine warms up it is most likely harmless piston noise.
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Originally Posted by 94vettelover2
Start putting the best/highest octane fuel in your vette.These engines are designed to use thehigher octane so stop putting the cheap stuff inDo this & see if problem goes away.I never had this issue/noise with my Lt1.Let us know if this fixes your problem
I run regular gas in my 96 no problem and its my daily driver... Whenever I hear something that gets me nervous I put a tank of premium in and see if it goes away, if not, its not the gas...

Like I said, no problems running regular gas...
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Running regular fuel is fine. The computer has a table in it that it uses to reduce timing when using lower octane fuel. It "knows" when lower octane fuel is used by looking at knock sensor activity.

The only "negative" is that the engine will have reduced power at high and WOT settings. For a daily driver...no big deal.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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I datalogged an LT1 Vette running 87 octane, it was under constant spark retard even at idle.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 12:32 PM
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SBC's are notorious for being noisy. Every chevy I have hade was noisy.
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Originally Posted by roger_dale38
I have a 92 LT1with 82,000. Always been maintained and no evidence of being beaten. Has good oil press. @ idle about 60 lbs. cold, 45 lbs warm.
@ 3000 rpm under load, sounds like wrist pins are loose. Maybe even rod bearings. Oil pressure is always good. Once engine is warm, both coolant and oil temp, problem seems to go away. Are these engines normally just noisey until they reach oper. temp? I am guilty of running a lower octane fuel from time to time. Problem doesn't seem to be getting worse. Runs great and will still pin you back in your seat. Anyone have any thoughts?

Thanks.
Just wondering, what actual temperatures is the car at when you start it. Does it stay outside? Where do you live?
It is common sense, but I have read also that you should not push the car until the oil temperature is something like 125 deg or so.
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