Removing ABS
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Heel & Toe
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From: charlotte nc
well mine was not working since before i had the car, an I have no intrest in getting it back. So what I'm really asking is about the big module behind the driver seat, an anything else that would not complicate too too much
Le Mans Master
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From: Australia
Two brake lines run from M/C to ABS unit ; then individual lines run to each wheel
Need to reconfigure lines so one line from M/C goes to front ; the other goes to rear
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I vote you get it working. it has saved my butt a few times.
How do you know it would be beneficial?
wait till it rains, pick a really long parking lot early in the morning, get it up to about 35 mph, and slam on the brakes and try to turn a nice easy gentle turn.....You can do it with ABS.
WHo knows, I might want a ride in your car sometime and you might just be showing off...... I still want my butt
How do you know it would be beneficial?
wait till it rains, pick a really long parking lot early in the morning, get it up to about 35 mph, and slam on the brakes and try to turn a nice easy gentle turn.....You can do it with ABS.
WHo knows, I might want a ride in your car sometime and you might just be showing off...... I still want my butt
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From: Lacey WA RVN 68-69
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Otherwise, either remove the ABS Fuse or disconnect the wire harness that goes into the pump.
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Safety Car
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The C4 system is seriously overboosted without ABS. 4:1 boost from the pedal and 4:1 from the booster = 16:1 total. You will have brake lockup all the damn time. I know this from experience. You will need some "apply" system redesign and also will need to run new lines as suggested above. This is not hard, but takes some time and knowledge.
I'm not saying that you shouldn't do it (I haven't had ABS on my car for years), but know what you're getting into.
I'm not saying that you shouldn't do it (I haven't had ABS on my car for years), but know what you're getting into.
Race Director
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It takes some getting used to yes! I've left an old set of v710's on and have been practicing threshold braking without ABS. I haven't found it to be over boosted, nothings really changed without the ABS system after all. You just get a nice slide instead of the ABS coming in.
For now mine is just coupled together, running a new line would be nicest. Search my threads I made one on this topic. Here's a pic:
For now mine is just coupled together, running a new line would be nicest. Search my threads I made one on this topic. Here's a pic:
Team Owner
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It depends on you. All my cars are ABS so I will fix the ABS. OTOH, if that was the only car, leaving it off is a better idea. Why? It depends on your training. Training makes habit. With non-ABS cars, you pump the brakes and with ABS cars you stand on them. Well, if you are in the habit of standing, what is most likely to happen when you stand on the brakes and it is the one WITHOUT or vice versa.
Burning Brakes
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From: Coquitlam BC
Why would anyone even want to remove the ABS? The work to remove the components isn't worth the hassle and the benefits of the system greatly outweigh the negatives. Chevrolet's own research (via racing these cars back in the day) revealed that ABS contributed to faster lap times as well as helping to save lives. If it's an issue of habit, then simply retrain yourself. Times change, technology changes; it's called progress. Why go backwards? That having been said, if your ABS malfunctions and your sensors are causing the car to pull to one side or the other, the easiest way to temporarily aleviate (not fix) this situation is to pull the ABS fuse which will disable the system and make it function like a non-ABS car.
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From: altered state
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Why in the world would you want something that slides rather than stops if its a street car thats plain crazy
Heck just use the ebrake instead
Not a fan of all the electronics in cars but ABS as irritating as it may seem has saved my butt many times, usually its in some situation with something like braking over bumps, loose gravel etc. Leave it working if you can.If its a dedicated race car thats your call.
Heck just use the ebrake instead
Not a fan of all the electronics in cars but ABS as irritating as it may seem has saved my butt many times, usually its in some situation with something like braking over bumps, loose gravel etc. Leave it working if you can.If its a dedicated race car thats your call.
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Why would anyone even want to remove the ABS? The work to remove the components isn't worth the hassle and the benefits of the system greatly outweigh the negatives. Chevrolet's own research (via racing these cars back in the day) revealed that ABS contributed to faster lap times as well as helping to save lives. If it's an issue of habit, then simply retrain yourself. Times change, technology changes; it's called progress. Why go backwards? That having been said, if your ABS malfunctions and your sensors are causing the car to pull to one side or the other, the easiest way to temporarily aleviate (not fix) this situation is to pull the ABS fuse which will disable the system and make it function like a non-ABS car.
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Safety Car
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...ABS as irritating as it may seem has saved my butt many times, usually its in some situation with something like braking over bumps, loose gravel etc.
And as for whether OP wants to remove it because he's lazy or because he's racing the car, who cares other than him? The question was "how do I remove it?" not "should I remove it?" I have a mother already. He probably does, too.
Advanced
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From: Kantuk Valley
i thought if you wanted to get rid of the abs
you just unhooked the wires and leave the lines alone
then it would be like an 85 with no abs
if you unhook the wires and keep the lines (then the abs doesnt work anymore)
leave those brake lines alone..
you just unhooked the wires and leave the lines alone
then it would be like an 85 with no abs
if you unhook the wires and keep the lines (then the abs doesnt work anymore)
leave those brake lines alone..
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I've read some people talking about a malfunctioning ABS system can cause problems with the braking system. Though, I say that probably doesn't happen every time there is a problem with the ABS.
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Actually you're better off locking the wheels in loose gravel...ABS is tuned to allow more tire slip in snow and gravel. The buildup in front of the tire will stop you better than preventing slip in these conditions.
And as for whether OP wants to remove it because he's lazy or because he's racing the car, who cares other than him? The question was "how do I remove it?" not "should I remove it?" I have a mother already. He probably does, too.
And as for whether OP wants to remove it because he's lazy or because he's racing the car, who cares other than him? The question was "how do I remove it?" not "should I remove it?" I have a mother already. He probably does, too.
I did some of those calculations in my chassis design class. I too have been tossing around the idea of removing the ABS. Since I upgraded brakes my ABS likes to kick in before I lock up a tire. I race for a few years without ABS so I dont think it would be to bad to go back to not having it.
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From: Kantuk Valley
a C4 corvette (without) ABS ......is not a bad thing
the early c4's did not have ABS
and
Ive NEVER ever heard them complain about wanting abs either
Im with the slide
i have both cars.........one with abs and one without
the early c4's did not have ABS
and
Ive NEVER ever heard them complain about wanting abs either
Im with the slide
i have both cars.........one with abs and one without