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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 383vett
I had my SuperRam base and runners Extrude Honed years ago and it really opened it up internally. I am running it on my 406 with a 230-240 cam and it goes through the traps at 6600 @ 127. I think these SuperRams can be made to breathe really well and still provide good low-midrange torque.
I feel over cammed, 230/240 on a 406.

230/236 on a 383 hmmmm...


I heard extrude hone's function is to smooth, I call around here and they said no significant amount of material is removed, a different approach, but aerodynamics related I presume.

No Siamese? I heard that was the ticket or maybe not....

Dr J out here in Orange Ca. welds material on to the base to re-contour the attack angle

so frankly there are 3 or more ways to do up a super ram, frankly is it worth the time and money for what gains?

my guess the bigger the motor or the more you want to wind it the better flowing it needs to be
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by slickfx3
I know people run stock SR's and ported SR's. Will a ported SR mimic a cam change? are there any downsides to radically gouging metal from the SR?
There is some similarity. Changing intake runner diameter and length can change where the power band lands. In that regard, you could compare it to a cam change. But, don't consider it the same. Cams have more variables. They control both intake and exhaust events. Intakes don't.

There's probably no downside with your 383/AFR/auto combo. (Wait! You'll want to run it into the higher rpms even more often! Could that require even more spring swaps? )

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mine is stock and it goes there rather readily, it's nothing to it, it hits the fuel cutoff abruptly , set at 6300,(since my lame atari dash tach is 1500 rpm behind in it reporting duty)
IIRC, the Atari tach can be off if the tach filter is missing or malfunctioning. You might check for it's presence (or replace it) if you want a better reading.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by slickfx3
I feel over cammed, 230/240 on a 406.

230/236 on a 383 hmmmm...


I heard extrude hone's function is to smooth, I call around here and they said no significant amount of material is removed, a different approach, but aerodynamics related I presume.

No Siamese? I heard that was the ticket or maybe not....

Dr J out here in Orange Ca. welds material on to the base to re-contour the attack angle

so frankly there are 3 or more ways to do up a super ram, frankly is it worth the time and money for what gains?

my guess the bigger the motor or the more you want to wind it the better flowing it needs to be
When an intake is extrude honed, it can be opened up as much as you want until it bleeds out a hole in the port. They just keep gushing the gunk back and forth as much as necessary to reach the desired opening. It allows the manifold to be opened up in the middle of the runners where it is hard to reach with a grinder. You are right though, it does leave it with a mirror finish. Willie
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by slickfx3
I heard extrude hone's function is to smooth, I call around here and they said no significant amount of material is removed, a different approach, but aerodynamics related I presume.

No Siamese? I heard that was the ticket or maybe not....

Dr J out here in Orange Ca. welds material on to the base to re-contour the attack angle

so frankly there are 3 or more ways to do up a super ram, frankly is it worth the time and money for what gains?

my guess the bigger the motor or the more you want to wind it the better flowing it needs to be
Your runners and base can be increased 10-15% with honing. The cost is $800ish.

Many don't consider this cost effective when you can swap to a miniram (or FIRST) to get a HP (or TQ) increase without spending much extra. (The assumption would be you'd trade/sell your SR with very much lower net out-of-pocket.

FWIW, the FIRST has that better "attack-angle" Dr. J refers to.
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 08:27 PM
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Dont think you need to do all that science project cut and weld to make it work good. If you have the time and funds it can be fun to play with but an agressive port job will wake it up imo. Thing is you can only get the runners so big especially where it goes into the base, have to make it seal too.
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 02:57 PM
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so can I have someone slap these in a call it a day?

so would these eliminate my need to buy new springs?


http://www.airflowresearch.com/index.php?cPath=75
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