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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 05:04 PM
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Does anyone know what C4 front spring with the code FJY stamped on the spring? I can't find it listed anywhere? Is it the FE1, FX3, FE7?
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Does anyone know what C4 front spring with the code FJY stamped on the spring? I can't find it listed anywhere? Is it the FE1, FX3, FE7?
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Dan, I'm not sure what year you are inquiring about, but your build sheet should specify what suspension option you have. If you know the option code and the model year, I have a chart with the suspension spring rates if this will help.
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Originally Posted by pmihaltian
Dan, I'm not sure what year you are inquiring about, but your build sheet should specify what suspension option you have. If you know the option code and the model year, I have a chart with the suspension spring rates if this will help.
I picked up a whole C4 front suspension/brakes/rack/wheels from a customer for very cheep. He didn't know what year, he thought it was the heavy duty spring. I can alway count the turns in the rack.
Thanks, Does anyone else know? Part number on the spring is 025232. Seems to be missing a number.

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EDIT: Not sure why I didn't just search for FJY first. Here ya go!

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-g...-code-fjy.html

Looks like the base spring from 1985, 335 lb/in spring rate.

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Hmm, I can't seem to find anything about an FJY code. Are you sure you didn't misread the printing? Not trying to insult you or anything, but they can be kind of hard to read sometimes. Here are a few resources for years, codes and spring rates, but nothing on FJY.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...-identify.html

http://www.idavette.net/hib/c4/sustunch.pdf

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...post1560654737

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...ing-codes.html

You can also do a search on "spring codes," there's a lot of info out there. Can be hard to find though.

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Okay here you go. I got this information from several OEM C4 build sheets and the C4 suspension profile chart:

1986 & 1987 convertible CNV FE1 and Z52 suspension option:

• FJY - Front Spring Rate (N/mm) = 54.4
• RCA – Rear Spring Rate (N/mm) = 39.9

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Originally Posted by pmihaltian
Okay here you go. I got this information from several OEM C4 build sheets and the C4 suspension profile chart:

1986 & 1987 convertible and Z52 suspension option:

• FJY - Front Spring Rate (N/mm) = 54.4
• RCA – Rear Spring Rate (N/mm) = 39.9
Excellent, That sounds about right. So the spring is a bit softer than the Z51?
Thanks to everyone!!!!.
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If your steering ratio is 13:1 (approx 2 turns lock to lock) then the rack & pinion is from an 86 roadster or an 87 roadster with Z52 suspension option.
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Excellent, That sounds about right. So the spring is a bit softer than the Z51?
Thanks to everyone!!!!.
Yes, the Z51 suspension rates (coupe only)for 1986 and 1987 were as follows:

• Z51 - Front Spring Rate (N/mm) = 66.5
• Z51 – Rear Spring Rate (N/mm) = 57.2

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Originally Posted by pmihaltian
If your steering ratio is 13:1 (approx 2 turns lock to lock) then the rack & pinion is from an 86 roadster or an 87 roadster with Z52 suspension option.
Is stock about 2-1/4 and Z51 1-3/4 turns? I'll go out and check.
Thank you again for everyones help.
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Originally Posted by StealthLT4
EDIT: Not sure why I didn't just search for FJY first. Here ya go!

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-g...-code-fjy.html

Looks like the base spring from 1985, 335 lb/in spring rate.
Thats not correct. The spring rates for 1985 Vettes are as follows:

1985 suspension options:

• Z51 - Front Spring Rate (N/mm) = 63.5
• Z51 – Rear Spring Rate (N/mm) = 57.2
• FE1 - Front Spring Rate (N/mm) = 54.0
• FE1 - Rear Spring Rate (N/mm) = 39.9
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Is stock about 2-1/4 and Z51 1-3/4 turns? I'll go out and check.
Thank you again for everyones help.
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The 1986 & 1987 roadsters did not come with Z51 suspension. They came with Z52 suspension. The Z52 option came with 13:1 quick ratio steering. All 1986 roadsters came with this quick steering. However, in 1987 only roadsters with the Z52 option came with quick steering. All other '87 roadsters came with standard steering ratio (approx 2.75 - 3.0 turns lock to lock)

On an 86 roadster or a Z52 optioned 87 roadster, that translated into approximately 2 turns lock to lock. I am not sure about the steering geometry on a C3 68 chassis and if the lock to lock turns would be the same. Check it out and see what you discover.
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Originally Posted by pmihaltian
The 1986 & 1987 roadsters did not come with Z51 suspension. They came with Z52 suspension. The Z52 option came with 13:1 quick ratio steering. All 1986 roadsters came with this quick steering. However, in 1987 only roadsters with the Z52 option came with quick steering. All other '87 roadsters came with standard steering ratio (approx 2.75 - 3.0 turns lock to lock)

On an 86 roadster or a Z52 optioned 87 roadster, that translated into approximately 2 turns lock to lock. I am not sure about the steering geometry on a C3 68 chassis and if the lock to lock turns would be the same. Check it out and see what you discover.
I just measured 1-3/4 LTL. Close enough, that's better than stock.
Thank you pmihaltian, you have been a big help.

Got this off Road & Track magazine reveiw of the 87.

"There's a choice of coupe or convertible bodies, and the transmission comes as a 4-speed automatic or a 4-speed manual shift, with the automatic locking into top for economy and the stick having overdrive on the top three of the four, controlled by a button atop the shift lever. A new, major option for 1987 is the Z52 sport handling package, which consists of Bilstein (stiffer) shock absorbers, quicker steering, wider (9-1/2 in. from 8-1/2 in.) wheels and, for the automatic, a 3.07:1 rear axle (which you get anyway with the stick shift) replacing the economy gearing of 2.59:1. "


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http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ations-feature

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I just measured 1-3/4 LTL. Close enough, that's better than stock.
Thank you pmihaltian, you have been a big help.
Okay, that means that the suspension & steering you have is either from a 1986 Indy 500 Pace Car roadster or a 1987 Corvette convertible with a Z52 option. Are the shocks yellow Bilsteins or Black Delco's ? Yellow would be 1987 & black would be 1986.
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The front spring on my 85 is a FJY and I believe it is original.
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Originally Posted by pmihaltian
Okay, that means that the suspension & steering you have is either from a 1986 Indy 500 Pace Car roadster or a 1987 Corvette convertible with a Z52 option. Are the shocks yellow Bilsteins or Black Delco's ? Yellow would be 1987 & black would be 1986.
I think it's out of a 86 or 87 with Z52. Sounds like the spring rate is the same as the base FE1 spring model . The steering radius in much better. Can't tell what the shocks were, it currently has KYB shocks with 2 piece Enkei wheels.
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Originally Posted by pmihaltian
The 1986 & 1987 roadsters did not come with Z51 suspension. They came with Z52 suspension. The Z52 option came with 13:1 quick ratio steering. All 1986 roadsters came with this quick steering. However, in 1987 only roadsters with the Z52 option came with quick steering. All other '87 roadsters came with standard steering ratio (approx 2.75 - 3.0 turns lock to lock)

On an 86 roadster or a Z52 optioned 87 roadster, that translated into approximately 2 turns lock to lock. I am not sure about the steering geometry on a C3 68 chassis and if the lock to lock turns would be the same. Check it out and see what you discover.
My 87 coupe with Z52 has the quick steering. Z52 was not offered in 86, only 87 and 88. When I replaced the rack last year, I checked to make sure I was installing the correct reman quick steering rack and the steering wheel turns lock-to-lock were the same. The rack I removed was the original.

Dan-- the front spring on my 87 is a HMP and the rear is a NYR. The build sheet I have matches the labels on the springs.
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Originally Posted by Bronze85
The front spring on my 85 is a FJY and I believe it is original.
Was you car built late in the model year? If so, maybe your late MY '85 Vette has a 1986 spring in it ??????
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My 87 coupe with Z52 has the quick steering. Z52 was not offered in 86, only 87 and 88. When I replaced the rack last year, I checked to make sure I was installing the correct reman quick steering rack and the steering wheel turns lock-to-lock were the same. The rack I removed was the original.

Dan-- the front spring on my 87 is a HMP and the rear is a NYR. The build sheet I have matches the labels on the springs.
Yes, what you say is correct for an 87 coupe with Z52 suspension. The convertible suspension specs were different than the coupes. What Dan has is from an 86 or 87 roadster.
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Originally Posted by c4cruiser
My 87 coupe with Z52 has the quick steering. When I replaced the rack last year, I checked to make sure I was installing the correct reman quick steering rack and the steering wheel turns lock-to-lock were the same. The rack I removed was the original.

Dan-- the front spring on my 87 is a HMP and the rear is a NYR. The build sheet I have matches the labels on the springs.
Thanks George,
I going to put this front suspension on my '84. The knuckles can handle bigger brakes. I'll still need to lower vette and get stiffer suspension. I dumpped 200 LBS of the front with the LS1. I'm installing a 2006 T56 in my 84 now. I blew up the 4L60e, too much HP. The LS1 is a monster. See you at the track!!!!
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Originally Posted by pmihaltian
Yes, what you say is correct for an 87 coupe with Z52 suspension. The convertible suspension specs were different than the coupes. What Dan has is from an 86 or 87 roadster.
Your right on! Was the Enkei wheels an option that year?
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