C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

rebuilding rearend

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 29, 2011 | 12:35 PM
  #61  
COPO's Avatar
COPO
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 8
From: Taft TN
Default

No there are 3/16 longer. The track width is 3/16 narrow. It's a brain twister.


Originally Posted by STEVEN13
COPO,

Did you also shorten the half shafts?

Thanks for answering all our questions!

Regards,
Steve
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2011 | 01:44 PM
  #62  
zarifian383's Avatar
zarifian383
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
From: Pasadena CA
Default

Gorgeous stance. Gorgeous color. Gorgeous Engine. Simply Gorgeous.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2011 | 05:30 PM
  #63  
STEVEN13's Avatar
STEVEN13
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,270
Likes: 118
From: N. Babylon NY
Default

Originally Posted by COPO
No there are 3/16 longer. The track width is 3/16 narrow. It's a brain twister.
Yes, I am confused

Track width meaning axle to axle-not wheel to wheel. Right?

You physically made the half shafts longer (wider)?

Thanks,
Steve

P.S. Looks Great!!
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2011 | 06:34 PM
  #64  
dclafleur's Avatar
dclafleur
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,551
Likes: 36
From: Jenks OK
Default

Originally Posted by STEVEN13
Yes, I am confused

Track width meaning axle to axle-not wheel to wheel. Right?

You physically made the half shafts longer (wider)?

Thanks,
Steve

P.S. Looks Great!!
I think track width is measured to the centerline of the tire. So if he went with way wider tires (which he did) then the half shafts could be longer and the track width could be narrower. Seems strange but he added 4.5 inches to the tire width on each side (I think).
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2011 | 11:06 PM
  #65  
COPO's Avatar
COPO
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 8
From: Taft TN
Default

Originally Posted by STEVEN13
Yes, I am confused

Track width meaning axle to axle-not wheel to wheel. Right?

You physically made the half shafts longer (wider)?

Thanks,
Steve

P.S. Looks Great!!
I changed to early knuckles which are 3/8 narrower. Did this because we need the late knuckles at the shop for other reasons. All in all by just putting a wheel on with spacers to do some measuring without a tire and how I had it pictured to look, without it being lowered.....I moved the wheel out 3/16 on each side to be happy. I am having half shafts made. Thats not much and most would never even notice, but I do. So I missed it by 3/16...not to bad for the 1st time. Stock control bars will not work and the swaybar is a very tight fit.

Originally Posted by dclafleur
I think track width is measured to the centerline of the tire. So if he went with way wider tires (which he did) then the half shafts could be longer and the track width could be narrower. Seems strange but he added 4.5 inches to the tire width on each side (I think).
I measure track width hub to hub.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2011 | 07:31 AM
  #66  
TA's Avatar
TA
Team Owner
25 Year Member
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 21,094
Likes: 282
From: Phila., PA burbs
Default

Originally Posted by COPO

That thing is flat out sick
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2011 | 08:23 AM
  #67  
mseven's Avatar
mseven
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,146
Likes: 3
From: The Motor City
Default

Originally Posted by COPO
Yes I moved ever thing including the control bars. Even moved the rearend up in the car. Its lower and still works as it should.
top notch build..and the car looks great!
I have a couple of questions for you.
I see that even with the rear moved up in the car it appears in the pics to be starting with some neg. angle on the half shafts. Do you think that will present any issues ?
I imagine you went has high up as possible without (cutting up the rear of the car) going below zero with the drive shaft or ?
If wouldn't mind, I would like to see how the low mount for the alt. for the alt. was accomplished.
TIA
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2011 | 12:30 PM
  #68  
STEVEN13's Avatar
STEVEN13
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,270
Likes: 118
From: N. Babylon NY
Default

[QUOTE=COPO;1577202381]I changed to early knuckles which are 3/8 narrower. Did this because we need the late knuckles at the shop for other reasons. All in all by just putting a wheel on with spacers to do some measuring without a tire and how I had it pictured to look, without it being lowered.....I moved the wheel out 3/16 on each side to be happy. I am having half shafts made. Thats not much and most would never even notice, but I do. So I missed it by 3/16...not to bad for the 1st time. Stock control bars will not work and the swaybar is a very tight fit.



I understand-Thanks COPO! Good luck with the rest of the build.

Steve
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Mar 30, 2011 | 10:05 PM
  #69  
COPO's Avatar
COPO
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 8
From: Taft TN
Default

Originally Posted by mseven
top notch build..and the car looks great!
I have a couple of questions for you.
I see that even with the rear moved up in the car it appears in the pics to be starting with some neg. angle on the half shafts. Do you think that will present any issues ?
I imagine you went has high up as possible without (cutting up the rear of the car) going below zero with the drive shaft or ?
If wouldn't mind, I would like to see how the low mount for the alt. for the alt. was accomplished.
TIA

Most think that the half shaft should run up downhill. Its really how the hs and camber bar work together in relation to the control bars and toe bars. They are the ones that control the movement of the knuckle or we could say keep it in place during travel. Another way to think of it is a upper and lower a arms. the upper control bar and half shaft being the upper a arm/ lower control bar and camber bar being the lower a arm. If looked at that way consider where most mount the coil over that is way inboard as compared to in the back where spring rate can be controlled better.

Low mount for the alt??
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2011 | 10:11 PM
  #70  
COPO's Avatar
COPO
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 8
From: Taft TN
Default

Originally Posted by STEVEN13
I understand

Steve
Bet I could change that to confussed again
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2011 | 07:51 AM
  #71  
mseven's Avatar
mseven
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,146
Likes: 3
From: The Motor City
Default

Originally Posted by COPO
Most think that the half shaft should run up downhill. Its really how the hs and camber bar work together in relation to the control bars and toe bars. They are the ones that control the movement of the knuckle or we could say keep it in place during travel. Another way to think of it is a upper and lower a arms. the upper control bar and half shaft being the upper a arm/ lower control bar and camber bar being the lower a arm. If looked at that way consider where most mount the coil over that is way inboard as compared to in the back where spring rate can be controlled better.
Low mount for the alt??
Thanks for the response...I never considered that. I always looked at it with the mentality of a drive shaft (starting with neg. angle so that under load it can only go to parallel). Reading your statement regarding toe/control bars, what then is needed to better control the knuckle ? (I agree, and like the idea of getting the angle of the coilover changed and behind the h.shafts).

In one of your build pics. it looks like a low mount alternator (or?) on the pass. side. I couldn't tell how you achieved room on that side with the a arm support, rack mount etc. being in the way.

Last edited by mseven; Mar 31, 2011 at 08:26 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2011 | 08:44 AM
  #72  
rickyrj1's Avatar
rickyrj1
Drifting
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,525
Likes: 10
From: NJ
Default

Lookin Good Bro, You still the C4 MAN!
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2011 | 10:56 PM
  #73  
COPO's Avatar
COPO
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 8
From: Taft TN
Default

Originally Posted by mseven
Thanks for the response...I never considered that. I always looked at it with the mentality of a drive shaft (starting with neg. angle so that under load it can only go to parallel). Reading your statement regarding toe/control bars, what then is needed to better control the knuckle ? (I agree, and like the idea of getting the angle of the coilover changed and behind the h.shafts).

In one of your build pics. it looks like a low mount alternator (or?) on the pass. side. I couldn't tell how you achieved room on that side with the a arm support, rack mount etc. being in the way.
It all starts with the hs. thats the one that cant be changed for adjustment and ride height needs to be known. Take 5 arms with 10 pivot points, make them hold a wheel to the curve of the body roll while pointing straight and putting power to the ground.

Thats the ac compressor mounted down low. Its a bracket we make for or pulley system. Its offer several ways and I like this one the best






Originally Posted by rickyrj1
Lookin Good Bro, You still the C4 MAN!
Thanks dude, hows your ride coming?
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2011 | 09:45 PM
  #74  
COPO's Avatar
COPO
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 8
From: Taft TN
Default

Made it outside on its own power. I havent done the front yet. Plans on spending the weedend on that. Only has a eyeball aliginment. But progress is being made.











Reply
Old Apr 21, 2011 | 10:38 PM
  #75  
esham's Avatar
esham
Pro
Supporting Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 541
Likes: 60
From: Auburndale Florida 1990 Vert, 6 speed
Default

Looks killer!


Originally Posted by COPO
Made it outside on its own power.
Can you give details on the ZF6 to LS setup?
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2011 | 07:45 AM
  #76  
drmrman's Avatar
drmrman
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,547
Likes: 46
From: NJ
Default

Andy you have to be at least a WEEEEE BIT proud of the work you've done.... Looks incredible man.
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2011 | 06:08 PM
  #77  
COPO's Avatar
COPO
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 8
From: Taft TN
Default

Originally Posted by esham
Looks killer!




Can you give details on the ZF6 to LS setup?

All I did was the rear end. It still has the old l98 in there.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To rebuilding rearend

Old Apr 22, 2011 | 06:11 PM
  #78  
COPO's Avatar
COPO
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 8
From: Taft TN
Default

Originally Posted by drmrman
Andy you have to be at least a WEEEEE BIT proud of the work you've done.... Looks incredible man.

I am proud but I am a very hard person to satisfy.
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2011 | 08:36 PM
  #79  
Kubs's Avatar
Kubs
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 9,698
Likes: 3,467
From: Akron Ohio
2025 Corvette of the Year Finalist - Modified
2024 C5 of the Year Winner - Modified
2023 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2022 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11
Default

Words cannot describe how awesome that looks!! Great job!
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2011 | 10:12 PM
  #80  
esham's Avatar
esham
Pro
Supporting Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 541
Likes: 60
From: Auburndale Florida 1990 Vert, 6 speed
Default

Originally Posted by COPO
All I did was the rear end. It still has the old l98 in there.
OK. Thanks.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:06 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE