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Ok, this thing is driving me crazy, its running too rich and sometimes has an rough idle, it drives ok and has good power under throttle, I have replaced every sensor on it, the opti-spark, plugs, wires, coil, control module, TPS, temp sensors, air intake temp sensor, o2 sensors, im runnig out of stuff to replace have spent a bloody fortune trying too straighten it out and am at the end of my rope, the only thing left are the injectors, I have allready ohm tested them and all is well, but I thought maybe one was hanging up or sense they are not factory injectors some dummy put 40lb per hr injectors on a factory LT1 or something like that. anybody out there had this problem? HELP!!!!! also there are no codes in the computer.
Last edited by pcmusicer; Mar 1, 2011 at 04:29 PM.
Check your fuel pressure regulator. Pull the vacuum line off turn the key to run but do not start. If fuel comes out of the regulator, change it. Also check your fuel pressure. This will let you know if you have a bad injector or a bad regulator leaking extra fuel. I say test first change one part later. Not change part to see If it's bad. Saves time and money.
checked the Pressure regulator, not leaking, so I guess i will check the fuel pressure, what should the pressure be?
I was only saying about the injectors because I can tell by the color they are not factory they are yellow, they were on the car when I bought it. The exhaust is gas smelling and sometimes it will load up to the point of dying, one note to make is it is much worse on a cold day, it idles well on a warmer day but still smells like raw gas coming out of the exhaust. The o2's are AC Delco, I heard vetts didnt do well on Bosh o2's so i sprung for the higher priced AC's, I am a pretty good mechanic but old school, also just asking but the guy I bought it from keeps insisting the ASR is causing it, but I cant see where traction control would have anything to do with it. (not working ASR Light is on) but I guess I could be wrong.
Here is some info from the '92 FSM. This might give you a starting point. If the injectors are not equivalent to stock, or the ECM has been reflashed, that may have a bearing on your problem. Did the symptoms exist when you got the car, or did they develop later?
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I have a set of stock injectors I had serviced by FIC sitting in the closet.
If you want them PM me, I'm heading for Nashville tomorrow and if you are anywhere near exit 2 on I75 or off I24 we could arrange a drop off. Or I could drop off on Sunday on my way home.
Just on a chance, check the temperature sensor (ECT) in the front of the water pump. If it is open, or the connections to it are not good, the ECM will not like that and there will be a real rich condition.
Check the digital readout for engine temp in your speedometer. If that looks good and responds normal to what the engine temp should be ambient temp and hot, then it is probably OK. As long as the digital does not read "LO" you're probably good. Measuring the ECT sensor with a meter can be a real challenge to get in there and make good contact on recessed pins on the front of the pump.
68* reads about 3500 ohms and 194* reads about 241 ohms.
Also if running the O2s to rich for to longer time can damage the O2 sensor. I don’t know what the exact time line would be and factors would make it vary.
I would check for codes also. You may find something in this case that might give you a clue. I would want to know especially if there was any O2 codes or related items. I would clear the codes and check again.
Thanks for all the help, I have replaced the temp sensor you spoke of but i have noticed that the read out in the car is not on par with the analog gauge I will check it out.