Cross-Bar installed...impressions
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Cross-Bar installed...impressions
Wow! I am really impressed! I put the Cross-Bar in last night, install took about an hour. I've got 3 huge speedbumps coming into my apartment complex and I used to hate the creaking/squeaking over those. Now, it is completely gone. There is also a considerably firmer feeling in the car around tighter corners...the back end swings right around, and is even a bit more predictable. Plus it just looks cool! I had heard good things about this product...and now you can count me among those advocates! Definitely worth the 10lbs added to the car. Can't wait to take it to an autoX after exams!
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Re: Cross-Bar installed...impressions (Dave95C4)
I couldn't agree with you more!
I also have the Camber brace installed... another big difference in the corners!
I also have the Camber brace installed... another big difference in the corners!
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Re: Cross-Bar installed...impressions (VetteNoob)
SCCA rules say that you cannot install stiffening in stock classes. If you install (and use) harnesses though it's legal. Sort of a loophole. Rule used to me that harness mounts had to be telescoping, though you were allowed a bolt-in roll bar/cage in stock.
If you don't run harnesses then SCCA autocross rules say that this would be considered similar to a strut brace and not legato for stock.
If you don't run harnesses then SCCA autocross rules say that this would be considered similar to a strut brace and not legato for stock.
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Re: Cross-Bar installed...impressions (92Shawnster)
You can bet as soon as I get $160 in my pocket this summer, I'm going to be calling Dave at R-D about one of those camber braces... I don't care what class I'm in, this thing rocks even in normal driving! ;)
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Re: Cross-Bar installed...impressions (TravisD)
Ok, so as long as I strap a harness to that cross bar, I stay stock class. If I dont use a harness and use factory seatbelts, it is thus considered a modified class. Correct?
Sounds a little like tax laws here. :crazy:
Sounds a little like tax laws here. :crazy:
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Re: Cross-Bar installed...impressions (Dave95C4)
This seems like a good idea but I wonder what happens when you get hit hard on the left or right hand side of the car not to mention rearended. Hopefully it won't ever happen but I doubt this product has been crash tested.
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Re: Cross-Bar installed...impressions (AquaMetallic94LT1)
I'm no mechanical engineer, but I would guess that the product would serve to hold the frame in place in the case of a rear-quarter panel side impact. I know it would keep the pillar from collapsing into the driver or passenger compartment. In a direct rear or front impact, along with a front quarter panel impact, I don't think it would make any difference either way. Besides, if you do get hit in the rear quarter panel hard enough to compromise the Cross-Bar, odds are the car will be totalled anyway. My guess is also that the camber brace would protect the engine in the event of a front-quarter panel collision, as the Cross-bar would hold the pillars in place.
All theoretical...coming from a guy who barely passed college physics. ;)
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All theoretical...coming from a guy who barely passed college physics. ;)
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Re: Cross-Bar installed...impressions (VetteNoob)
Ok, so as long as I strap a harness to that cross bar, I stay stock class. If I dont use a harness and use factory seatbelts, it is thus considered a modified class. Correct?
I just started using the harnesses this year (one event so far) and so far I really like them. Much more solid feeling in the car - I'm not holding myself in the seat using the dead pedal and wheel any more- the bets are.
Keep in mind that all classing in SCCA autocross is "by the competitor" and getting tossed from a class is via protest. Talk to your fellow competitors about it. Unless you're beating them I doubt they would mind you staying in stock with them.