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3rd Gear
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my buddie just rolled his 93 vett was going just a little too fast around a curve now i will have to fight a pillars. they are flat with the door now any suggestions on how i will be able to fix this situation another vett is not an option
Melting Slicks
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I think everyone would like to see pics of the damage done.
C4's are bottom value right now too.
Daily Driver C4 that has been rolled at speed is usually considered a totaled Vette.
Can you do the body work & frame repair TO SAVE $$$$$$$ ?
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Drain all fluids.
Take out spark plugs, turn over the key to get excess fluids out.
cut the top off, put in a roll bar and a windscreen and go tracking, because it's junk.
It can be fixed by the right person, but if a different C4 is not an option that means doing the job right is also probably not an option for the person financially.
If you are on a corvette forum asking how to do it, chances are it is out of your league to repair it.
Better off to part the car and get an older c4, or switch parts over to another car and then make sure it is insured properly if that is the issue.
How much would he sell the car for?
Is it stick?
Take out spark plugs, turn over the key to get excess fluids out.
cut the top off, put in a roll bar and a windscreen and go tracking, because it's junk.
It can be fixed by the right person, but if a different C4 is not an option that means doing the job right is also probably not an option for the person financially.
If you are on a corvette forum asking how to do it, chances are it is out of your league to repair it.
Better off to part the car and get an older c4, or switch parts over to another car and then make sure it is insured properly if that is the issue.
How much would he sell the car for?
Is it stick?
Burning Brakes
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Sorry to see it go. Fixing that takes some SERIOUS tools and know how. Look for someone selling a similar Corvette that blew the motor up and get it for dirt cheap. This is, of course, after you check if your motor and trans are good. This is also a good chance to upgrade to a stick if the current Vette is an auto.
Think of it this way, doing a motor swap will DEFINATELY help out your automotive skills.
Btw, not that I'm saying Corvettes are the most ground hugging car in the world, but I've done some stupid things in my car and have never come close to flipping it..... What are you not telling us?
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I would have rather seen the "what kind of oil should i use" or "how fast is my car post"
Sorry, couldnt resist.
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3rd Gear
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it was my buddies dads car and he pasts away a few years ago.... it was left to my buddy and his brother for sentimental purposes. His brother was going to fast and around a curve and flipped the car into a ditch killing himself this past sunday morning. Now his brother has extreme sentimental value for this car and wants to rebuild it in dedication for his Father and recently deceased younger brother. Hence why another Vette is not an option and funds are not a problem. He would just rather keep the car from touching a strangers touch. We have a few close friends that have experience in paint/bodywork, I was just wondering what I was looking at for A pillars before I bring them along.
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Sorry for your & your friend's loss...that sucks.
"Extreme sentimental value" and high $ funding usually go hand in hand...but your talking about a major amount of work/time/knowledge/frame tooling/$ to correctly "repair" that kind of damage.
I didn't know: the extent of the damage to the car, you, your friend or his late brother - but I do think moving on would be the best thing.
If you still want to get the car "fixed" I can give you a number of a place here in FL but I would estimate north of 10K for all the repair work.
"Extreme sentimental value" and high $ funding usually go hand in hand...but your talking about a major amount of work/time/knowledge/frame tooling/$ to correctly "repair" that kind of damage.
I didn't know: the extent of the damage to the car, you, your friend or his late brother - but I do think moving on would be the best thing.
If you still want to get the car "fixed" I can give you a number of a place here in FL but I would estimate north of 10K for all the repair work.
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Your buddy died 3 days ago and you're concerned about how to fix the car?
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If the windshield frame is "flattened", chances are good the rear halo/roll-bar has also taken-on some severe damage.
Either way, unless the car is a ZR-1 it's probably not worth salvaging. As 87 vette 81 big girl has stated, C4's are at the bottom of their value curve, so you're friend will probably pour more into it than it's worth.
Best bet: part the car out completely, then use whatever funds he makes towards another C4. If you're friend can hold out, when the fall rolls around he'll find some good deals when people unload these cars before the winter.
It sucks having to give this kind of advice, and it certainly sucks having to accept it, but sometimes reality has to be faced.
Either way, unless the car is a ZR-1 it's probably not worth salvaging. As 87 vette 81 big girl has stated, C4's are at the bottom of their value curve, so you're friend will probably pour more into it than it's worth.
Best bet: part the car out completely, then use whatever funds he makes towards another C4. If you're friend can hold out, when the fall rolls around he'll find some good deals when people unload these cars before the winter.
It sucks having to give this kind of advice, and it certainly sucks having to accept it, but sometimes reality has to be faced.
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I think keeping a car a relative was killed in indicates a need for serious evaluation by a mental health professional.
I don't care whose it was or how cool it was get it out of my sight forever. That's just me.
I don't care whose it was or how cool it was get it out of my sight forever. That's just me.
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Take select pieces from the old car and transplant them into a new one. Less money.
I know someone who restored a wrecked Beemer because she really liked it. It's over 30yrs old and they're still spending money keeping it running. Last moneth 5k to ship the transmission to the only person who still knows how to redo those transmissions.
Can you say money pit?
I know someone who restored a wrecked Beemer because she really liked it. It's over 30yrs old and they're still spending money keeping it running. Last moneth 5k to ship the transmission to the only person who still knows how to redo those transmissions.
Can you say money pit?
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Tell your friend that everyone on the Forum sends their condolences to him and his family. 
I'm not sure this is the time to be considering the future of that car. Let it sit and take care of family business first. I think a decision like that should wait and be made with a clear, unemotional head. The car's time will come.
I'm not sure this is the time to be considering the future of that car. Let it sit and take care of family business first. I think a decision like that should wait and be made with a clear, unemotional head. The car's time will come.
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thanks for all the replies ill let him read them in a few weeks and he can make a rational decision i figured he would have let it go but he said he wanted to keep it mayby this will help the only reason he hasnt done the posts is because hes not strong enough to handle it yet he asked me to get some ideas togather
again thanks for the advise
again thanks for the advise
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I think I have a sensible solution. For all of you who have never had to support a family at times like this, take a deep breath, and do not be surprised by what people say or do after such an awful tragedy.
I had a close friend die in an aircraft accident. He left behind a wife and 3 month old son. On top of some other very bizarre requests I received from her, one was that she wanted something from the aircraft that killed her husband. Flying was his life.
After the accident investigation the Navy gave her a large engine part that a sculptor made into a waterfall for her backyard. It was quite tastefully done actually, and provided a constant reminder of him.
Thus, (sorry for being so long-winded) my suggestion would be to take some parts from the Corvette and make it into some sort of display in memory of the father and son. Perhaps a shadow box with the car emblems or some garage art with a plaque in their memory. Hope this helps. You and your friend have my utmost sympathy. I would recommend counselling for both of you to help with your grief. It will help.
I had a close friend die in an aircraft accident. He left behind a wife and 3 month old son. On top of some other very bizarre requests I received from her, one was that she wanted something from the aircraft that killed her husband. Flying was his life.
After the accident investigation the Navy gave her a large engine part that a sculptor made into a waterfall for her backyard. It was quite tastefully done actually, and provided a constant reminder of him.
Thus, (sorry for being so long-winded) my suggestion would be to take some parts from the Corvette and make it into some sort of display in memory of the father and son. Perhaps a shadow box with the car emblems or some garage art with a plaque in their memory. Hope this helps. You and your friend have my utmost sympathy. I would recommend counselling for both of you to help with your grief. It will help.
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Melting Slicks
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thanks for all the replies ill let him read them in a few weeks and he can make a rational decision i figured he would have let it go but he said he wanted to keep it mayby this will help the only reason he hasnt done the posts is because hes not strong enough to handle it yet he asked me to get some ideas togather
again thanks for the advise
again thanks for the advise
My only suggestion, from experience, is to wait before making any big decisions.
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I think I have a sensible solution. For all of you who have never had to support a family at times like this, take a deep breath, and do not be surprised by what people say or do after such an awful tragedy.
I had a close friend die in an aircraft accident. He left behind a wife and 3 month old son. On top of some other very bizarre requests I received from her, one was that she wanted something from the aircraft that killed her husband. Flying was his life.
After the accident investigation the Navy gave her a large engine part that a sculptor made into a waterfall for her backyard. It was quite tastefully done actually, and provided a constant reminder of him.
Thus, (sorry for being so long-winded) my suggestion would be to take some parts from the Corvette and make it into some sort of display in memory of the father and son. Perhaps a shadow box with the car emblems or some garage art with a plaque in their memory. Hope this helps. You and your friend have my utmost sympathy. I would recommend counselling for both of you to help with your grief. It will help.
I had a close friend die in an aircraft accident. He left behind a wife and 3 month old son. On top of some other very bizarre requests I received from her, one was that she wanted something from the aircraft that killed her husband. Flying was his life.
After the accident investigation the Navy gave her a large engine part that a sculptor made into a waterfall for her backyard. It was quite tastefully done actually, and provided a constant reminder of him.
Thus, (sorry for being so long-winded) my suggestion would be to take some parts from the Corvette and make it into some sort of display in memory of the father and son. Perhaps a shadow box with the car emblems or some garage art with a plaque in their memory. Hope this helps. You and your friend have my utmost sympathy. I would recommend counselling for both of you to help with your grief. It will help.
