'91 Steering Column threading
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'91 Steering Column threading
Hey guys, does anyone know what size bolt goes into the '91 steering column to pull the steering wheel?
I've been referencing this since I am having the same issue with the turn signals and high beam:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...nal-stalk.html
Pulled the airbag out and went to put the bolts in to pull the steering wheel. The bolts I have are English (5/16) and I know most of the other bolts in the corvette are metric. Do I need to pick up metric bolts for it? I did not see a metric steering wheel puller at Autozone yesterday when I picked this one up.
Thanks in advance!
I've been referencing this since I am having the same issue with the turn signals and high beam:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...nal-stalk.html
Pulled the airbag out and went to put the bolts in to pull the steering wheel. The bolts I have are English (5/16) and I know most of the other bolts in the corvette are metric. Do I need to pick up metric bolts for it? I did not see a metric steering wheel puller at Autozone yesterday when I picked this one up.
Thanks in advance!
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Not sure, but I do know that the bolts that came in my puller kit did NOT fit my '91. I had to find some bolts I had laying around to do the job.
As a side note, I have some spare parts from my old '91 column if you happen to need something...
As a side note, I have some spare parts from my old '91 column if you happen to need something...
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Okay guys, this is what I have. It appears the multi-function switch is working properly, but does not activate when using the turn signal stalk. I'm not sure what to do from here to fix the limp stalk.
http://www.justanswer.com/chevy/24pe...o-diagram.html
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http://i41.tinypic.com/f9l1s2.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/w8w7xx.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/fmtct1.jpg
We found this plastic piece roughly 2 weeks ago when we began to inspect it after the right turn signal didn't work. After we got it out from the back, the high beam switch no longer worked. Does anyone have an idea as to its purpose or location?
http://i42.tinypic.com/jt5rg8.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/2aeqibc.jpg
http://www.justanswer.com/chevy/24pe...o-diagram.html
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http://i41.tinypic.com/f9l1s2.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/w8w7xx.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/fmtct1.jpg
We found this plastic piece roughly 2 weeks ago when we began to inspect it after the right turn signal didn't work. After we got it out from the back, the high beam switch no longer worked. Does anyone have an idea as to its purpose or location?
http://i42.tinypic.com/jt5rg8.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/2aeqibc.jpg
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The plastic piece you found links the high beam pivot to the high-beam linkage. In you picture of it, the right side (the curved side) goes into the column first, to fit against the upright metal bar/link.
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Bit bored, so I updated your picture. You will probably have to remove the multi function pivot/base dohicky in order to get the plastic piece in there.
I dont have a good picture when I rebuilt my column (got pictures of just about everything else.......go figure) but in one of the pics I do, I circled the end of the plastic lever (it has way too much grease on it).
Back to your original problem, perhaps the metal Y-shaped arm isnt completely seated in the multifunction base? I had that problem, a slight tweaking/bending of it, made sure that the Y-arm was completely in the groove. Did that make sense?
I dont have a good picture when I rebuilt my column (got pictures of just about everything else.......go figure) but in one of the pics I do, I circled the end of the plastic lever (it has way too much grease on it).
Back to your original problem, perhaps the metal Y-shaped arm isnt completely seated in the multifunction base? I had that problem, a slight tweaking/bending of it, made sure that the Y-arm was completely in the groove. Did that make sense?
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Is the plastic piece I've got broken off? Or will it just sit in there? I assumed it was broken, but saw no stress marks where the plastic would have broke.
And right above your top arrow in the photo on the steering column, any idea where that metal rod connects to? It's got some wiggle room and I don't remember feeling it before the plastic fell out.
And right above your top arrow in the photo on the steering column, any idea where that metal rod connects to? It's got some wiggle room and I don't remember feeling it before the plastic fell out.
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You plastic piece is ok, it just sits on the metal arm. The outer column housing will sorta hold it in place until everything is put back together, may take a coupla tries before you get it all seated together.
Upper end of the metal rod doesnt connect to anything - it cant, because the curved end of the plastic piece (that fell out) seats over the rod.
The other end of the metal rod sits in the dimmer switch socket, down at the base of the column. Will have to remove the lower dash hush panel to gain access.
Upper end of the metal rod doesnt connect to anything - it cant, because the curved end of the plastic piece (that fell out) seats over the rod.
The other end of the metal rod sits in the dimmer switch socket, down at the base of the column. Will have to remove the lower dash hush panel to gain access.
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Okay so the plastic piece pretty much connects the "dimmer" rod to the signal arm lever?
Would that cause my issues, or is there something else? Issues being no right turn signal click, no high beam control, and as of today, no left turn signal click. I would assume so since the signal arm lever was pretty much disconnected.
You mean the metal piece that sits atop the multi-function switch? It screws in there perfectly fine, no issue. I've got it out right now. I did notice it's got a metal pin sort of thing on the back, which I thought was to ride on the plastic piece. Does something connect to that metal pin in the back of it?
Would that cause my issues, or is there something else? Issues being no right turn signal click, no high beam control, and as of today, no left turn signal click. I would assume so since the signal arm lever was pretty much disconnected.
Back to your original problem, perhaps the metal Y-shaped arm isnt completely seated in the multifunction base? I had that problem, a slight tweaking/bending of it, made sure that the Y-arm was completely in the groove. Did that make sense?
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Okay so the plastic piece pretty much connects the "dimmer" rod to the signal arm lever?
Would that cause my issues, or is there something else? Issues being no right turn signal click, no high beam control, and as of today, no left turn signal click. I would assume so since the signal arm lever was pretty much disconnected.
Would that cause my issues, or is there something else? Issues being no right turn signal click, no high beam control, and as of today, no left turn signal click. I would assume so since the signal arm lever was pretty much disconnected.
You mean the metal piece that sits atop the multi-function switch? It screws in there perfectly fine, no issue. I've got it out right now. I did notice it's got a metal pin sort of thing on the back, which I thought was to ride on the plastic piece. Does something connect to that metal pin in the back of it?
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Thanks, I'll take a better look at it tomorrow when the sun comes back up and give you an update. I do know upon removing the lockplate, i tried the turn signal stalk and no mechanisms moved, including the signal arm. Im not sure if that helps you help me diagnose the problem. I will re-assemble the arm and multi-function to see if maybe there is something broken in the multifunction that I didnt notice at first or that maybe something wasnt seated right. I do have to take back the new multifunction since it doesnt have the bottom screw hole for the arm. I remembered one of the holes by the magnet in the old multifunction appeared to have a threaded metal sleeve in it?
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Lets start over - what was the original problem? As a minimum, I know your high beams arent working.
Was your turn signal stalk flopping around? Could you hear the switch mechanisms/springs moving when you move the stalk?
Remove the metal pivot base from its pivot in the column and take a picture of it and post it. That will tell me if your base is broken or not.
Was your turn signal stalk flopping around? Could you hear the switch mechanisms/springs moving when you move the stalk?
Remove the metal pivot base from its pivot in the column and take a picture of it and post it. That will tell me if your base is broken or not.
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It started close to 3 weeks ago. I was driving home from work one night and when i went to signal a right turn, i got no response. No click, etc. Just a flop of the stalk back down to the original position. Then my grandfather and I took a closer look at it about 2 weeks ago and pulled that plastic piec out because it felt loose. That stopped the high beams from working. Then today when preparing to pull the steering column (its been sitting in the garage since the high beam problem), it worked to signal a left turn about 2-3 times, then the stalk went limp altogether. No noise comes from the stalk, its just very loose. I will get a photo of the multi function switch shortly
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Certainly sounds like your multifunction switch/base has a broken wall/tab.
Heres my broken multifunction switch/base. Notice the slight crescent shaped area - that is where it broke off.
Heres what a new one looks like:
The metal pivot in the Y-arm rides in the channel. Yours is either broken, or the pivot is no longer in the channel, or both. But Im just guessing without seeing what yours looks like
Heres my broken multifunction switch/base. Notice the slight crescent shaped area - that is where it broke off.
Heres what a new one looks like:
The metal pivot in the Y-arm rides in the channel. Yours is either broken, or the pivot is no longer in the channel, or both. But Im just guessing without seeing what yours looks like
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That is the gold piece on the bottom left of the steering column photos, correct? Sorry, I'm new to all this mechanical stuff. The only thing I've done beyond brakes and the norm are the injectors on this. Lol. I bought it as a backup vehicle and to learn more about vehicles.
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Mine appears identical to your's. How do I go about removing it?
Can I get the replacement at an Auto Zone type store? That's where I purchased the multi-function switch but the switch did not come with that base or the arm, just the plastic pieces (yellow and black) in my very first photo.
Can I get the replacement at an Auto Zone type store? That's where I purchased the multi-function switch but the switch did not come with that base or the arm, just the plastic pieces (yellow and black) in my very first photo.
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It should simply lift off from its pivot, but I seem to recall theres not enough clearance to allow it to be removed completely, if so, you will have to remove the outer column housing to gain enough room.
Cant quite tell from your photo if your base is broken or not. Can you get a photo from the edge?
Cant quite tell from your photo if your base is broken or not. Can you get a photo from the edge?
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Here's a photo from the side. Tried to keep the camera as still as I could. There is a metal pin going through the center of mine. I don't think there's space behind it to knock it out. I'll attempt to get that metal pin out tomorrow, then it will probably pop right out. Thanks for all the help so far!
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Time to work on getting that pin out today.