I am supposed to trade my 95 Harley FXSTS this Saturday for a really nice looking 84. I thought these were 300hp from the factory but found out they are only 205. Also I hear there are issues with the cross fire FI. What are most doing to improve HP. Is the best way to just pull the motor and rebuild? Do away with the CFFI? Or are there any bolt ons that can improve performance. It does have 154k. Considering the mileage what would you all do? I think the car is bone stock. And let me say that I want the car to be tame on the street too. 350 to 375 hp would be great.

 

I think crossfire fans are like banjo players. They're out there for sure-but a little off. If it was me at 154k I'd pull it and rebuild it at the least because you'll be doing that soon enough anyway.
You've not mentioned anything yet about a budget.
Another thing to consider is that you have a tranny with 154k sitting right behind the motor you're wanting to beef up. If you don't give that some attention as well you'll be kicking yourself later when she pukes on you.
Some responses you receive will also depend on whether it's a stick or auto.

 

Ah good call on the tranny. By the way it is an automatic. What would 4k to 5k get me? Can the CFI be swapped out for something better? What about a new style motor from maybe a C5?

 

Before you do the trade, I would re think that.

I see your bike in nice shape selling for 8K plus around here.

I can't imagine that 84 being worth that as a trade. What kind of shape is the Harley in?

 

I traded a 1997 Kawasaki axe 1200 for my very nice 1995 coupe and the kaki wasn't worth near what this car is. AND I wouldn't trade my Harley for anything brother especially an 84.

 

Look into porting your cfi intake extensively, or replacing it w/ a different intake like the renegade (bolt on), or the other crossram intake outs there (req' work to fit), or switch over to a single 2bbl. tbi unit like off a late 80s chevy truck (use a tbi inake or 4bbl. intake w/ a tbi adaptor). The stock wiring harness & ecm will operate these. Once you get the cfi intake off you'll see why they are only rated at 205hp.
If you upgrade the ecm & mod the harness you can run a port injected system, req an upgaded fuel pump. The intakes that are popular are the holley stealth ram, miniram, & ported tpi intakes.

 

the early c4 years are the embarassment of the c4 generation. Even with work on the cf you wont be as fast as a honda accord v-6.

 

Thats the stupidest thing I've read in a long time.

 

Well my HD Springer has been converted to a wide glide. It is a 95 and has 56k so while it looks good she aint no spring chicken. I would like to get 8k but not in this market. I am seeing plenty around here on Craigs List not selling. Probably closer to 7k at best. Not to mention I still have my Harley Davidson Electra Glide that I prefer by alot.

The owner says it has been painted about 2 years ago and it does look great. No oil leaks. Shifts perfectly. Interior is in very nice shape. He did say the owner before him said he did some motor work but he doesn't know what so I am going with nothing. I was just going to drive it for a few years then maybe pull the motor. Rebuild with some different cams and long tube headers and put it all back together. Will that get me around 300hp?

 

I am in agreement with the previous members in stating that I think you can do better than a 1984 corvette for the Harley. Keep in mind that the 1984 Corvette was unique in many ways. The motor and many of the components, dash, suspension, etc., were only available for that 1 year. You would be better off looking for a 1985 and up if you wanted this body style. It was similar to when they released the new body style corvette back in 1968. This corvette had many unique items which they fixed in 1969 and the value of them is not as much as their predecessors. I would look at Craig’s List and eBay and see what they are getting for a similar car before I made a deal that you may regret later.

 

Here is the car in question. So an 85 is much better? You can see why I fell for this 84.

http://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/2790612042.html

 

If you're looking for 300hp an LT-1 may be the easiest/most cost effective choice

 

It is a sweet looking car but it is still a 1984.
1985 had the tuned port and revised dash cluster.
1986 had anti-lock brakes and the same cluster but it was tilted to reduce glare.
They both also had suspensions refinements.
P.S. I am pretty sure that all 1984's had the heavy duty suspension.
Please see attached of a newer, less mileage, coupe that in my opinion a better choice for what you are looking for.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TREAT...item2eba84b674

 

AS AN 84 OWNER AND THIS CAR BEING A 1 YEAR WONDER,I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT. MINE IS COMPLETELY ORIGINAL. NO ITS NOT THE FASTEST CAR AROUND,BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVE THAT TO ANYONE. WE HAVE DONE A DRIVER RESTORE.PAINT INTERIOR ALL NEW PROTHANE BUSHINGS(RED). THIS CAR HAS TURNED INTO MY WIFES TOY. I HAVE THREE OTHER CARS THAT ARE SHOW CARS,EACH ONE A COMPLETE FRAME OFF RESTORATION.AND EACH DIFFERANT IN ITS OWN WAY. I HAVE RECEIVED MANY AWARDS FOR THESE CARS.FROM BEST OF SHOW TO RODDERS CHOICE,PEOPLES CHOICE. THESE CARS ARE ALL FUN,BUT MY WIFE STARTED TAKING THE VETTE TO SOME OF THESE SHOWS,AND RECENTLY TOOK 2ND PLACE FOR THE C4 CLASS.ITS UNBELIEVABLE THE ATTENTION THIS CAR GETS. MOST PEOPLE HAVE NEVER SEEN A CROSSFIRE. MOST 84S HAVE BEEN BASTERIZED. CHANGED TO A 4 BBL,85 TBI,OR TRUCK SINGLE TBI.MOSTLY BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS HOW TO WORK ON THE CROSSFIRE. NO, A 84 IS NOT THE FASTEST CAR,BUT IT DOES OUT HANDLE,DUE TO THE Z51 SUSPENSION. IF YOU PAY ANY ATTENTION TO THE COLLECTOR CAR WORLD,THE 1 YR. WONDERS ARE THE ONES THAT BRING THE MONEY. AND NO THE 84 IS NOT WORTH THAT MUCH TODAY BUT SOMEDAY? OTHERWISE,IF YOU LIKE IT TRADE. AND YES YOU COULD PROBABLY DO BETTER AS OTHERS STATE. BUT I DON'T THINK A 85 0R 6 OR WILL EVER BE WORTH WHAT A STOCK ORIGINAL 84 WILL BE. SOMEDAY. THIS OUGHT TO OPEN UP A CAN OF WORMS. P.S. THE ONLY THING CHANGED ON OURS FROM ORIG. IS THE ZR-1 REPLICA RIMS. BUT I HAVE THE STOCK.

 

Nice looking ride..Take a good look around lot's for sale right now and you have to think about the resale ,,If going to keep for awile go for it if not rethink it..Can't get your money out of it so if you just want something to work on and a ride every now and then and have a little fun ..repuilding the motor no big deal 4-barral crab little cam good heads headers and overhaul the trans Hot Rod 84 Corvette... you will have counting the trade about if you do most work $12,000 to $14,000 in it..$7,000 for vett and $4-to $7 in motor and trands so that is what your looking at if going big time easy $20,000 .. The sad part it hard to put bolt ons and get much more power with the C-4s it's a combo thing to get big power you have to open the motor and the rest to go with it.. I work on then every day something to think about I love mine ..Just very hard to get your money back ever want to resale it... Good luck...

 

If you're into rebuilding with a carb, the 84 might be a reasonable option. Otherwise, hold out for an LT (92+) vette.

I would actually recommend at least a 93, if not 94-96.



BTW....because 1983 wasn't done, there are a glut of 1984 Corvettes. Pretty sure it's the highest production year (by far). No way you should consider value of an 84 any better than any other C4 year.

C4's had the stiffest stock suspection which made is OK for auto-x platform. But later HD suspension options are more desireable.

 

I think the thing guys are trying to tell you is that yes, it's a nice looking car you're looking at. But...........buyer beware since you're new into the C4 world. It's an '84 which is nice to be sure; but the power level is less than other years and the crossfire platform is much more limited without spending some bigger bucks than otherwise. And, you'd be out of luck retaining smog compliance if you went after some serious power upgrades.

I personally look at a C4 as 3 different generations (excluding the ZR1): The '84 cars (X Fire), the '85-91 cars (L98), and the '92-96 cars (the LTx). IMHO as with everything; the newer you get, the better technology you get. Again my opinion only, but the best of all C4 worlds would be an LT based 400 block...........now that would be badazz!

 

[QUOTE=Caboboy;1579707182]I think the thing guys are trying to tell you is that yes, it's a nice looking car you're looking at. But...........buyer beware since you're new into the C4 world. It's an '84 which is nice to be sure; but the power level is less than other years and the crossfire platform is much more limited without spending some bigger bucks than otherwise. And, you'd be out of luck retaining smog compliance if you went after some serious power upgrades.

I personally look at a C4 as 3 different generations (excluding the ZR1): The '84 cars (X Fire), the '85-91 cars (L98), and the '92-96 cars (the LTx). IMHO as with everything; the newer you get, the better technology you get. Again my opinion only, but the best of all C4 worlds would be an LT based 400 block...........now that would be badazz! :thumbs.. True ..People that don't know the C-4 as we do..Prop..think we'er nuts.. I can here then now ..Say what ??? If I knew what I know now I would have keep my 66 Fairlane 427 ,I just seen one on TV go for $165,000 ..I might had $20,000 in mine..I going for a ride a and trying to forget...O-WELL...

 

No worrys guys. I backed out of the deal earlier today. It was hard for me to do because I I set my sights on something I usually dont stop. I have either owned 72nova, 70 1/2 RS Camaro and most recently my semi pro touring 72 Chevelle SS. All Big Block cars. But I really dont know alot about cars so I rely on my buddys who do and they are echoed your comments. Very pretty car but I am going to wanta little more from it. Oddly enough I love the C3 and would rather have one of them Yes I know they are slower than the 84s but the carb cars are much easier to work on.

 

You can put paint on a turd, but it ain't worth a harley. You want a C4, you can get a decent '92 or later for that bike and you will be happy with the performance. Just my opinion