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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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Seems like everytime I take a belt off for servicing alt. or AC, whatever, when I put it all back together the drive belt squeaks to high heaven, I mean, sometimes it makes some real nasty sounds.

So, I get out a handy can of "belt dressing" and sprtiz away at it. The noise quits as long as I'm spraying, then when I quit it comes back. I spray, quit, and the noise is back. Eventually, I say to myself "the heck with it" and drive around town a couple weeks with my engine sounding sick, till it finally goes away on its own.

36 years of playing with motors and I still can't make the belt squeak go away, except by letting it drive it off.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 07:04 PM
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Is the tensioner sticky at all?
Do you put the belt on so it is going the same way? I like to put a arrow on it so its extactly the same, so its not flipped. This is a problem on some engines.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 10:49 PM
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I discovered a long time ago, those "belt dressings" only make it worse.
They silence the squeak for a minute or two, but thats it.

Also, todays serpentine belts really shouldn't need anything like that.
They don't slip like the old v-drive belts.

Make sure all of your pulley's are clean and aligned correctly.
Put on a new name brand belt, and you shouldn't have any squeaking.
If you do, something isn't aligned correctly, or a pulley bearing is going out.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 05:46 AM
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^^agreed. replacing the belt is a good idea. belts tend to stretch over time and they never seem right after they are removed for service. while the belt is off check the tensioner and ensure its putting adequate pressure on the belt and is not hanging up.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mazdaverx7
^^agreed. replacing the belt is a good idea. belts tend to stretch over time and they never seem right after they are removed for service. while the belt is off check the tensioner and ensure its putting adequate pressure on the belt and is not hanging up.
Thanks ya all for replying. ex-x-fire, that's a good point, I had about 15k mi. on the belt, changed out the rack/pinion and put the belt back on without regards to directionality. While every engine is made to manuf. tolerances, undoubtedly the pulleys aren't 100% "perfectly" aligned from the factory, and its likely that the belt developed some kind of slight warpage, esp. with the summer heat here.

Everything's clean in there, I had everything but the crank pully out.

Its nice having a new steering gear. Tie rod ends were funky - I'd torqued them to spec, drove a while and they were loose so I re-torqued them. Fun. Kinda fubared spec though, I mean, there's a torque spec but when you get to 35 ftlbs the holes in the bolt don't line up with the notches in the nut for the cotter pin, so I view 35ft lbs as a minimum spec.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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Mini-rant #2.

Don't remember seeing you around much lately?

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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 02:05 PM
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I've had to shim some of the brackets in my car to make sure the pulleys are aligned properly. Never had a problem with a squeaky belt. Maybe clean off all the dressing and start with a new belt.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 06:36 AM
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The main problem is there is a slight film of oil on the belt. You would have been better off spraying brake clean on the belt and pullys. I had the same problem on one of the CNCs in my shop.
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You might have a weak belt tensioner. There is a visual guide on the actual tensioner which will show if the belt is stretched out or if the springs in the tensioner are weak.
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Quick answer; replace the belt.

I had a similar experience with a serpentine belt that was called a gator-back. No matter how tight or spraying with goop the darn thing squeeled like a cat was stuck in there.

Turned out the belt was worn and bottoming out on the ridge/grooves. The "grip" on the groove sides was gone. After a quick search this is not uncommon for this style belt to fail after a short service life.

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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Off topic but how did that LS1 valved LT1 head go, ever get done?
I have everything but the valve guides. Springs seats washers retainers locks valves heads seals. Problem is, the 93's running just fine and I already have a spare set I worked ( Thanks for reminding me, I need to hunt down some bronze guides, they're harder to find than I thought. Those lightweight valves w/beehives and a David Vizard-type porting should be a hot ticket. Know of anyone who did a flame burnout on a vette ? lol
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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
Quick answer; replace the belt.

I had a similar experience with a serpentine belt that was called a gator-back. No matter how tight or spraying with goop the darn thing squeeled like a cat was stuck in there.

Turned out the belt was worn and bottoming out on the ridge/grooves. The "grip" on the groove sides was gone. After a quick search this is not uncommon for this style belt to fail after a short service life.

Jr,
You probably had the wrong belt. The Goodyear Gatorback serpentine belts are the best belts made in my opinion. I use them on all my vehicles and they outlast every other brand I've tried. http://www.goodyearep.com/productsdetail.aspx?id=3128

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