C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

1994 ZF 6speed problems

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 14, 2012 | 06:40 PM
  #1  
outlawtubbywales's Avatar
outlawtubbywales
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
From: Caddo Mills Texas
Default 1994 ZF 6speed problems

Hey guys- just bought a 94 coupe with 123k miles and a 6 speed manual last week. Everything looks and works great, but I have an intermittent problem shifting between 1st to 2nd gear and sometimes getting the car in reverse. The 1-2 shift issues happen during normal driving and the reverse problem seems to be when the car is driven for the first time of the day. When I test drove the car, I noticed the shifter had an extremely short "throw" and seemed really notchy and not smooth. It seemed like a completely different shifter than the other cars i test drove. Should I be leaning towards the master cylinder/slave cylinder, or a new transmission? Something aint right !!!
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2012 | 06:44 PM
  #2  
VetteMed's Avatar
VetteMed
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 7,392
Likes: 218
From: Merritt Island, FL
Default

I'd probably first check to see if it's got an aftermarket shifter in it, which might benefit from adjustment. If it's a shifter with adjustable stops, then it may be preventing proper gear engagement.

I'd also consider the hydraulics as you mentioned. First check the fluid level. If it's low, it's possible that there's a leak (usually at the slave cylinder).

You can have your stock parts rebuilt by Powertorquesystems.com , or you can try your luck with aftermarket.
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2012 | 11:08 PM
  #3  
outlawtubbywales's Avatar
outlawtubbywales
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
From: Caddo Mills Texas
Default

I didn't know you could adjust these shifters. I will check the fluid in the clutch MC this weekend. I haven't been able to mess with the car too much, cause the wife was really pissed when I drove up in it. I sold my bass boat last weekend and I told her I was gonna buy a honda accord with the money....
That didn't happen.
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2012 | 07:46 AM
  #4  
LD85's Avatar
LD85
Race Director
25 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 12,772
Likes: 17
From: Indianapolis IN
Default

Check the hydraulics first,, for sure!
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2012 | 09:10 AM
  #5  
jmgtp's Avatar
jmgtp
Drifting
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,972
Likes: 243
Default

Does the 'bad' 1-2 shift coincide with a light in your dash that illuminates to read "1 to 4"? If so, you're problem is the CAGS unit.

Under certain conditions (low speeds/throttle angles/mph) it uses a solenoid to force the shifter from 1st into 4th. Mine was failing when I got my car and when I would try to shift to second, it would try to force me into fourth and crunching sounds would happen. On the 94 it is as easy to disable as unplugging the connector from the solenoid. This was designed to basically save gas by getting you into a higher gear sooner. I think manual transmission Corvettes still have this even today.

If you don't think thats your problem then there is:
Clutch hydraulics as others have suggested
Bad release bearing, fork, or pivot ball
Improper fluid
Worn syncrhonizers

If your having a lot of trouble getting into Reverse as well then it sounds like your clutch isn't releasing in full. Reverse is syncrhonized on the ZF6 and it should take much effort to engage. That said, mine definetly takes more effort to get into R then it does into a foward gear.

If I was you...
I'd change the fluid in the ZF first since its a good maintenance item to take care of. I've used GM Synchromesh with good results, I'm trying Amsoil Syncrhomesh this year. Others will say to use the BMW oil. While you're under there, do yourself a favor and unplug the CAGS. You'll see a large cylinder on the drivers side of the trans with wires coming out - thats it, just unplug the connector. While you're under there inspect the slave cylinder. They don't last forever and when they leak, they sometime leak INTO the bellhousing which holds the fluid from reaching the ground (so you never even knew you had a leak!). A failed slave cylinder (or master, or the hose) will cause shifting problems.

Last edited by jmgtp; Mar 15, 2012 at 09:18 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2012 | 09:17 AM
  #6  
oldalaskaman's Avatar
oldalaskaman
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 9,272
Likes: 17
Default

Originally Posted by outlwtubbywales
I didn't know you could adjust these shifters. I will check the fluid in the clutch MC this weekend. I haven't been able to mess with the car too much, cause the wife was really pissed when I drove up in it. I sold my bass boat last weekend and I told her I was gonna buy a honda accord with the money....
That didn't happen.
tell her you could've drowned in the boat, and nobody ever drowned in a vette. then tell her it matches her eyes and you think 'bout her every time you're in it. hope this helps
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2012 | 10:38 AM
  #7  
TorchRedlt4man's Avatar
TorchRedlt4man
Drifting
20 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Liked
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,336
Likes: 12
From: Chicago Executive Airport, formerly known as Palwaukee
No-IL Events Coordinator
St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17
Default

If the transmission fluid has not been replaced recently, I would begin there.

Search for transmission fluid choices in the forum.

Also an excellent source of information on your transmission:

http://zfdoc.com/

Everything you always wanted to know about ZF transmissions, but were afraid to ask!
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2012 | 12:00 AM
  #8  
mtwoolford's Avatar
mtwoolford
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,482
Likes: 196
From: folsom california
Default

Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
tell her you could've drowned in the boat, and nobody ever drowned in a vette. then tell her it matches her eyes and you think 'bout her every time you're in it. hope this helps
let / teach her to drive it; once she takes some of her girlfriends for a spin, there won't be anymore talk about Honda Accords.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Mar 16, 2012 | 12:04 AM
  #9  
mtwoolford's Avatar
mtwoolford
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,482
Likes: 196
From: folsom california
Default

if its the cags, check with any corvette aftermarket supplier, some of the later cars require a "cags eliminator" to be plugged into the wiring harness; it fools the computer into thinking that the cags unit is still operational.
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2012 | 06:11 AM
  #10  
dizwiz24's Avatar
dizwiz24
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 14,680
Likes: 752
From: NEwhere Ohio
Default

its possible the previous owner installed the bmw oil which has caused some owners issues.

I disagree w/ zfdocs recommendationt to use the castrol bmw crap.

Caused me all kinds of issues at wot. Missed shifts. Had to abort drag runs bc shifter wouldn't move into the next gear.

When I switched back to gm syncromesh, my problems went away.

I run the hurst short throw shifter and it works great. A small amount notchier than stock but not bad at all.
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2012 | 10:52 AM
  #11  
outlawtubbywales's Avatar
outlawtubbywales
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
From: Caddo Mills Texas
Default

Guys- Thanks for all the great replies. I will be changing the Trannny fluid this weekend and see how that goes. Next- i will chnge the Clutch MC, Slave and hose. I will keep posting the results. The car is great- it has the usual issues, weatherstripping, minor window adjustments needed etc.. Oh yea- the factory Bose system is struggling too.
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2012 | 11:50 AM
  #12  
outlawtubbywales's Avatar
outlawtubbywales
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
From: Caddo Mills Texas
Default

Hey guys here is a quick update- I unplugged the CAGS and changed the tranny gear oil out with AMSOIL Synchromesh. The 1st to 2nd issue went away and the car did shift smoother, however, I was still having the issue getting the car into reverse. This weekend I was trying to back out of garage and I couldn't get it in reverse at all. I tried shifting into 1st, as normal so I could get it to shift into reverse and this wasn't happening either. Something odd was going on- even though I could not get it in any gear, the car would surge forward when I tried placing it in 1st and it would surge backwards when I tried placing in reverse. This told me the clutch was not fully disengaging. I turned the motor off and it shifted into every gear with ease. Time for a master cylinder, slave cylinder and fluid change. Jacked the car up, pulled the slave cylinder (easy)and master cylinder (pita) and while doing so, stripped the threads on both ends of the hydraulic line. I can't imagine someone crossthreading both ends, maybe they were galded together after 18 years !! I had the slave and master bought, but I had to order the hose from Corvette Stainless Steel Brakes for $95.00, will be here tomorrow. The old fluid in the master looked like the oil I drain out of my Dodge diesel, during an oil change.
I will follow up tomorrow......
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To 1994 ZF 6speed problems





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:55 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE