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Old May 26, 2012 | 02:07 AM
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Well out of all the C4's Ive owned , I never had a problem with the infamous headlight motor gear issues, Is what I describe below just that problem, or something different.

cruised tonight, stopped at store turned off lights, the drivers light closed as usuall but is making a loud grinding type noise, and it doesnt stop in the headlight down position, headlight on and up position its fine,

I also noticed when its making that noise , the adjusting nut or what ever you call it to align the headlight when closed just keeps spinning , and the other side is fine.

So is it the motor or the gears that took a crap or something else.

Thanks for the help, in the meantime I will do some searching.
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Old May 26, 2012 | 02:48 AM
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Sounds like the bushings....
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Old May 26, 2012 | 03:36 AM
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Sounds like the bushings....
Well to cover my tracks I ordered gears and bushings for both sides.

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guess the 88 and newer have the bushings, and the 87 and older have just the gears, oops
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Old May 26, 2012 | 10:36 AM
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limit switch is toast 87, doesnt have bushings, just gears
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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
limit switch is toast 87, doesnt have bushings, just gears
Is this a 100% accurate diagnosis, if so , is it replaceable , (the switch, and where is it)

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nothing is 100% on the early year lights, if it keeps running you're going to need gears , replace the gears, if that doesnt cure the issue, it is adjustable and replacable
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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
nothing is 100% on the early year lights, if it keeps running you're going to need gears , replace the gears, if that doesnt cure the issue, it is adjustable and replacable
Ok , I will wait till the gears arrive and dive into it, I have read other posts that You yourself has responded too concerning these lovely headlights, so I will trust your input,lol.

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Old May 26, 2012 | 02:17 PM
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usually... when the limit switch senses resistance it cuts power, usually... all you need is new gears to restore that resistance, like I said ...usually. if you get a chance, upgrading to the later year system cures a lot of problems. There is some really good tech on this site. btw. replace both gears, if you're doing that much work, no reason not to.
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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
usually... when the limit switch senses resistance it cuts power, usually... all you need is new gears to restore that resistance, like I said ...usually. if you get a chance, upgrading to the later year system cures a lot of problems. There is some really good tech on this site. btw. replace both gears, if you're doing that much work, no reason not to.
Yes I ordered both sets, also ordered the bushings, but didnt notice they ar only needed for 88 and newer, was too damn tired early this morning when I ordered the stuff and that one slipped by me, oh well good thing they were only $5 each side.

BTW if you have a link to any pictorials of replacing these gears, it would be greatly appreciated.

Any visual assistance that leads to less back bending would be greatly appreciated , since I am partially limited in that department.

Thanks a bunch and I appreciate the help.
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The problem is that there are no picture threads for the early years. the easiest way to do these is to remove the entire headlight from the hood and put it on a bench. before removing it, use a magic marker and mark the horsehoe 'the u shaped brackets' position on the hood to make re-installing it quicker. I've never found a picture thread with pic's for the early years, but the ones for the later years will generally work. The part to be most carefull with is when you separate the case halves...gently. make sure to note where things are located inside and if possible even take a pic. for reference. Wilcox has a video thats pretty good, but its for the later style.

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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
The problem is that there are no picture threads for the early years. the easiest way to do these is to remove the entire headlight from the hood and put it on a bench. before removing it, use a magic marker and mark the horsehoe 'the u shaped brackets' position on the hood to make re-installing it quicker. I've never found a picture thread with pic's for the early years, but the ones for the later years will generally work. The part to be most carefull with is when you separate the case halves...gently. make sure to note where things are located inside and if possible even take a pic. for reference. Wilcox has a video thats pretty good, but its for the later style.
Thanks Bob, I really appreciate the Help

Didnt see anything on the Wilcox website, Ill keep looking,

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Heres the Forum sticky link. Sorry it generally covers the newer style and some of the pics are dead.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...air-w-pic.html

Bob is absolutely right tho, careful disassembly, replace gears, hope the limit switch works. Thats what turns off the power to the motor. The limit switch picks up when the headlight hits the stop and shuts off power. With a stripped gear, no resistance so it continues to run. I had the same problem but lucked out and got another motor.
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...t=wilcox+video

the wilcox video,
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Thanks Bob, I know the 87 is different, but this vid is very handy

Much appreciated.
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excellent
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