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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 04:33 PM
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I sold a used DMF to a guy locally for his 96 LT4. Nice enough guy, seems like a good guy, etc.

When he purchased it, he asked me if I was willing to take it back if it was NOT THE CORRECT PART....I agreed. He had a local corvette shop check it over, deemed it was usable, then installed it. I feel at this point, that 400.00 refund is null and void because it was indeed the correct part, checked over, then installed.

The car was fine when he picked it up, then he drove it home 33 miles, and when he came to a stop light, he took the car out of gear and let the clutch out and heard the rocks in a can noise which is the main reason he replaced the flywheel in the first place.

I do not know what was in the car first, SMF, DMF, etc etc. He is asking for his 400.00 back. What would you guys do in this situation?

FWIW, I paid 225 shipped for it a year or so ago. I am not going to refund the whole 400. I am willing to let him keep the flywheel and give him back 175 or 200 if anything, but even then, he bought a USED part that SPEC'D out good and was INSPECTED by a local corvette only shop.

There was barely a 1/2" of play between the two halves of the flywheel. There was not any leakage from any seals and looked in very good shape. Do these just go bad within a 33 mile drive? I am still waiting for more information about what was in the car before and what was installed this time around. I KNOW he reused the old clutch.

Thanks,

Mike

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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 04:41 PM
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You owe him nothing. The part was inspected and it was deemed to be the correct part or else the mechanic wouldn't have installed it. There is no expressed warranty with a used part unless you told him there was and you didn't.
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 04:46 PM
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You owe him nothing. The part was inspected and it was deemed to be the correct part or else the mechanic wouldn't have installed it. There is no expressed warranty with a used part unless you told him there was and you didn't.
...and has he actually verified the flywheel is bad?

Buying used parts is a roll of the dice. Sometimes it has to be done, but it's not risk free as he has found out.
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 05:05 PM
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It is impossible to please most Corvette owners.
You owe 0. Its a used part, you checked it out in good conscience.

Just went through this.
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 05:09 PM
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 06:38 PM
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 07:43 PM
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 08:04 PM
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Have the dude contact us. We'll set him straight.
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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Could be coincidence... But is this your guy?

http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/wan/3195283750.html
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 383vett
Have the dude contact us. We'll set him straight.
I'm with the rest of the guys on this one. I'd say that the part was accurately described, was properly inspected and - now that it's been used - it's not your problem anymore. "You pays your money and you takes your chances."
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 08:54 PM
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Finding a new one good luck. He will have to be patient.
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 09:02 PM
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He bought a used part, had it inspected and was happy enough with it that he had it installed. It's his.

His "rocks in a can" could also be the throw out bearing if he cheaped out and didn't replace it while in there.
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 09:12 PM
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Like everybody else said, you owe him nothing. let him go back on the shop that said it was okay. I'm willing to bet he had them change nothing but the flywheel and he knows he can't go back to them.
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 383vett
You owe him nothing. The part was inspected and it was deemed to be the correct part or else the mechanic wouldn't have installed it. There is no expressed warranty with a used part unless you told him there was and you didn't.
X2. Even if it was a brand new part. Someone maybe his mechanic deemed that the part that needed replacing to fix his problem was what he purchased from you. If the purchased part did not fix his problem, how can you be responsible? He needs a better mechanic,
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 09:52 PM
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+10

Rest assured and sleep well... you did nothing wrong. There was nothing deceptive or misleading regarding the transaction, description, inspection, or installation.


The new recipient may have other issues and not related to the previous arrangement.
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 01:16 AM
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He probably found one cheaper, and yours will stay in his car while he tries to return the other one he found back to you.
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 03:45 AM
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Those are my pics of the dmf i sold him. Looks like it was in pretty good shape?

He saw the date of manufacture on the dmf too and still chose to purchase it.

I think they just replaced the flywheel only.

Thanks all.

Mike
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 12:11 PM
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There are *some* parts that shouldn't be bought if they're used, IMO this is one of them. Having said that, you've gone the extra mile in your original dealing with the buyer. You owe him nothing but sympathy.
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by coupeguy2001
He probably found one cheaper, and yours will stay in his car while he tries to return the other one he found back to you.
yes, a good chance this is the case also. Some people will burn and manipulate others and sleep fine at night. If you didn't stamp some kind of i.d. on yours you would not be able to tell for sure if it was the same one returned.
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