1 row vs 2 row rad
Le Mans Master
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From: Hellinois
Finalist 2020 C4 of the Year - Modified
Can't say I recall a 2-row brass being sold anywhere...but my searches were for alum.
I almost bought one on fleabay a couple years ago, maybe they aren't around any more. I had my original rad cleaned out & it is doing fine.
Did you mean this the other way around? Modded cars "need" more cooling than stock.
No, I meant what I said, BUT, I am speaking of my own car, it is modded but not to the extent of some on here. Real heavily modded cars running at the track would definitely benefit from a two row. I should have been clearer.
So, if (at least some level of) modded cars can cut it on the stock radiator, it shows the stock unit is more than enough for the OEM config. And, your's is more than an intake --OR-- headers. You've got both AND a cam, right?
That is correct a mild cam though w/ 11:1 compression and I am serious when I say it rarely sees 200 degrees. If I am stuck in real heavy traffic it may see 210-220 at the very most. My main fan comes on at 185 though.
Compression is a big factor too....
I almost bought one on fleabay a couple years ago, maybe they aren't around any more. I had my original rad cleaned out & it is doing fine.
Did you mean this the other way around? Modded cars "need" more cooling than stock.No, I meant what I said, BUT, I am speaking of my own car, it is modded but not to the extent of some on here. Real heavily modded cars running at the track would definitely benefit from a two row. I should have been clearer.
So, if (at least some level of) modded cars can cut it on the stock radiator, it shows the stock unit is more than enough for the OEM config. And, your's is more than an intake --OR-- headers. You've got both AND a cam, right?
That is correct a mild cam though w/ 11:1 compression and I am serious when I say it rarely sees 200 degrees. If I am stuck in real heavy traffic it may see 210-220 at the very most. My main fan comes on at 185 though.
Compression is a big factor too....
Last edited by Midnight 85; Dec 31, 2012 at 09:15 AM.
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From: 1994 LT1 Coupe 6-speed with FX3 & 2000 LS1 Vert 6-Speed with F45 Hunterdon County, NJ
This is true and it will be coming soon. I am still working on a single row (1.5" tube) design that I think will be out in Feb 2013. Target price is around $300 and early tests shows a major increase in cooling over the stock unit. This single wide tube design beats the multiple three row cores because of the dead space between the tubes. Stay tuned
e.g. 96's coolant fans - both would run at slow speed at 125-8 degrees F based on coolant temperature, so no air flow would occur without AC turned on or until coolant temp reaches 125 +/-
to Tom: Sounds great and if only it was available when I just did my stock EOM (delphi) radiator (with tranny cooler, even though I have a zf manual) I would have seriously considered it instead.
to Bigfoote: my new stock radiator with tranny cooler works well here in NJ, but only while moving, sitting at a light it can still creep up to 128 (94's set-point) until primary fan comes on and then comes down quickly to 118 while sitting still, or to 194-7 within a mile of resumed driving).
Last edited by theadmiral94; Dec 31, 2012 at 08:58 PM.
