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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 11:34 AM
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Are there any proven aerodynamic improvements available?
Not looking for mirror removal and racer-taping seams..

Things like:

Chin spoilers

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Belly Pans

Diffusers


If so who makes them and what are the improvements?

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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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As far as I know chevrolet really did their homework getting the c4 to be slippery in stock configuration. To be honest i would think you would have to be really moving to get any benefit from any sort of chin spoiler or splitter.
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Originally Posted by weaselbeak
As far as I know chevrolet really did their homework getting the c4 to be slippery in stock configuration. To be honest i would think you would have to be really moving to get any benefit from any sort of chin spoiler or splitter.
Yes, you have to be really moving, and some drag reduction via aero improvements will move how high, really moving is.


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Are there any proven aerodynamic improvements available?
Not looking for mirror removal and racer-taping seams..

Things like:

Chin spoilers

Splitters

Belly Pans

Diffusers


If so who makes them and what are the improvements?

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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 08:44 PM
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looks to me like the first step is to vent air and pressure out from under the hood. There is an interesting thread on ax/rr that I hijacked (just a little) to discuss C4s. Somebody reported measuring a 2 psi pressure diff above and below the hood. A pair of vents over the 2 & 3 exh primary looks like a good spot to vent pressure as well as heat. There is a good Cad aero map of a C4 on that thread as well.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/auto...downforce.html

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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 09:13 PM
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This thread has a lot of good info about aerodynamics (specifically for a diffuser build)

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-g...-diffuser.html
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 11:18 PM
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Been reading tons of threads about the rear diffuser on c4s.But i dont see any place that sells the aluminum ones.A few on here have built them and they look killer.My hold-up would be welding the aluminum,plenty of build info on here though..good luck
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 11:24 PM
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Unless you dont mind rivets
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mxnuke
Been reading tons of threads about the rear diffuser on c4s.But i dont see any place that sells the aluminum ones.A few on here have built them and they look killer.My hold-up would be welding the aluminum,plenty of build info on here though..good luck
Why not make one out of fiberglass? You make the piece out of cardboard, saturate the cardboard in epoxy, add a layer or two of fiberglass and then you have your diffuser...

That is my plan lol
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Originally Posted by dogfish246
This thread has a lot of good info about aerodynamics (specifically for a diffuser build)

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-g...-diffuser.html
Thanks dogfish. I read that thread the first time it came around and would have posted to it, but the new thread age rule probably would have resulted in a lock.
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Originally Posted by Crepitus
looks to me like the first step is to vent air and pressure out from under the hood. There is an interesting thread on ax/rr that I hijacked (just a little) to discuss C4s. Somebody reported measuring a 2 psi pressure diff above and below the hood. A pair of vents over the 2 & 3 exh primary looks like a good spot to vent pressure as well as heat. There is a good Cad aero map of a C4 on that thread as well.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/auto...downforce.html
That was an interesting thread, but how accurate are those CAD aero-maps.


I wonder if the Shinoda Mears kits worked. I remember the threads on IRT Shinoda Mears were mostly on how no one could find one.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...in-please.html

IMO They look great and if they work as well as they looked they be the ticket.

Especially with a working diffuser/partial belly pan







Originally Posted by dogfish246
This thread has a lot of good info about aerodynamics (specifically for a diffuser build)

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-g...-diffuser.html
Thanks dogfish. I read that thread the first time it came around and would have posted to it, but the new thread age rule probably would have resulted in a lock.

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I can tell you that from years of seeing people put all kinds of "aero" parts on their cars.... 90% don't do anyhthing but make it look better... but some do the opposite.

If you want aero parts that actually work, talk to guys that take their vettes to the track because those parts will usually work in some way. The only real functional chin spoiler I've seen was one on a ZR1 that had brake cooling ducts.
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 10:14 AM
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Thanks Ziggy, your experience confirms mine (90+% of things that are supposed to enhance performance don't)

However, it seems like the track guys priorities are on things other than drag reduction.
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You have to be going seriously fast to even have them take effect if any.
The spoiler GM put on there does a decent job at keeping air from going under the car...hood etc. Like the cowl induction. It works but to really see a gain Id bet youd need to be doing 100 or better.
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
You have to be going seriously fast to even have them take effect if any.
The spoiler GM put on there does a decent job at keeping air from going under the car...hood etc. Like the cowl induction. It works but to really see a gain Id bet youd need to be doing 100 or better.
I got it! I understand you have to be moving fast.. I'm looking for high speed improvements.


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Wonder if there is some type of sim program one could play with that mimics those conditions.
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
You have to be going seriously fast to even have them take effect if any.
The spoiler GM put on there does a decent job at keeping air from going under the car...hood etc. Like the cowl induction. It works but to really see a gain Id bet youd need to be doing 100 or better.
Here is a nice graph for exactly that info (assuming it is correct):
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Originally Posted by dogfish246
Here is a nice graph for exactly that info (assuming it is correct):
That's from this Corvette Fever article

http://www.corvettefever.com/techart...unnel_testing/
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Well if anyone wants a greenwood spoiler when I get my car here from florida ask and you just might have one, in my mind a corvette is just fine the way it rolls off the assembly line.
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The Shinoda kit is THEE ONLY body kit that made the C4 sexy!
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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
The Shinoda kit is THEE ONLY body kit that made the C4 sexy!
but does it make it faster?
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