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Old May 14, 2013 | 08:49 PM
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Whats the easiest way to tell if you have a z51 or not?
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Old May 14, 2013 | 09:03 PM
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If it has the stock wheels they are one inch wider (9.5") on the rear. 1984 Z51 equipped "Sport" steering racks yield 2-1/4 complete turns of the steering wheel while "Standard" Z52 racks allow 2-3/4 complete turns. Other than looking on the RPO code list these are the easiest ways. I have a 1984 Z51 car that I am currently bringing back to life.
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Old May 14, 2013 | 10:30 PM
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Look for the Bilstien shocks, yellow, the flat rear spring and the true Z51 R&P will be 1 turn to either direction. No more.

There were sway bar differences but by only a cpl mm...hard to tell by looking.

Look under the console lid or the rear cargo doors for a sticker of the codes on that car..The fat front wheels as well.

That rear spring...only the z-51 came with a spring so hard that it has almost zero arc. The standard spring has a good amount of arc...obvious. The Z with either the 411 lb OR the 499 lb spring was/is almost flat...the ***-end sits a bit lower due to this.
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Old May 15, 2013 | 09:07 AM
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The *** ends of most all C4 corvettes, including mine was because of the rear dog bone link bushing failures. If your car sits lower in the rear I am willing to bet that is the issue. I have changed a number of these cars to poly bushings, I have yet to take one apart that had good rubber bushings in it.
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Old May 15, 2013 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mechanicmattc
The *** ends of most all C4 corvettes, including mine was because of the rear dog bone link bushing failures. If your car sits lower in the rear I am willing to bet that is the issue. I have changed a number of these cars to poly bushings, I have yet to take one apart that had good rubber bushings in it.


Thats how you tell if its a Z-51 car?
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Old May 15, 2013 | 12:24 PM
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Just to look and see if the car sits lower in the rear is not a good way to tell. All of these cars that I have seen sit lower because of this issue with the bushings. Just saying..... In response to the last line of your first reply.

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Old May 15, 2013 | 09:45 PM
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Cool thanks for the help fellas!
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Old May 15, 2013 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bridges77
Whats the easiest way to tell if you have a '84 Z51 or not?
Do you have any fillings left in your teeth ?

The hardest riding , stiffest suspension ever fitted to a C4
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Originally Posted by mechanicmattc
... because of the rear dog bone link bushing failures.
If your car sits lower in the rear I am willing to bet that is the issue.
How do you figure that?
The dog bones are not load supporting ; they only serve to locate the spindle, forward and aft.
The weight of the car is carried by the spring and the bushes on the link from the spring to spindle . With the car sitting on the ground you could remove the dogbones completely and the static height would not change
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Some datas on suspension rates

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...l#.UZMyirW-2So
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Vettoz:
The spring mount (link) is on the rear of the spindle, not the center. It changes it. Causes the spindle to rotate forward lowering the rear of the car. If it was directly under the center it wouldn't change. The spring cushions usually are worn as well. Those links are constantly in a bind because of the design of the suspension.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 10:31 PM
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Thanks leesvet she is def a z51 rear is almost level and the shocks have been painted but are almost gold in color underneath. I couldnt find any stickers at all interior was a mess. thanks for your imput.
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Bridges, the RPO codes are on a label in the left rear storage compartment in your '84. Is this label missing from your car? Where are you located?
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Old May 18, 2013 | 10:12 PM
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Hi yes they are missing...Im in Michigan. When I look at the rear spring there is almost no arc at all. The shocks have been painted black but it can be rubbed off and it is yellowish gold underneath.
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Old May 18, 2013 | 10:14 PM
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If it is for sure a 51 what are the pros cons?
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To find out if an '84 has the Z51 suspension drive down a rough road. If it shakes your fillings out you have Z51. ;-)

If you look on the bottom of the steering rack there is a plug at the gearbox. If it has AJ, AK or YP on it then it's Z51. The standard racks are YM.
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Old May 21, 2013 | 04:22 PM
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23mm rear sway bar.
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Originally Posted by Bridges77
When I look at the rear spring there is almost no arc at all.
You won't be able to see whether the spring is a low arch Z51 unless you remove it from the car, since the car sits at about the same height whether it has the standard spring or the Z51 spring.

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Old May 24, 2013 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Hot Rod Roy
You won't be able to see whether the spring is a low arch Z51 unless you remove it from the car
In which case you may as well just check the code stamped on the end of the spring to see if it is a '84 Z51 spring or not
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Old May 24, 2013 | 09:41 PM
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Ok thanks I will check the spring. So whats special about the 51 anyway?
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