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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 11:47 AM
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can they be replaced with others?
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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 12:00 PM
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can they be replaced with others?
http://fuelinjectorconnection.com/sh...hp?groupid=101
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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 11:56 PM
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Another vote for Techron.
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 03:14 PM
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Star Tron...I use this in all my lawn equipment, cars and put the one for diesal in my home oil tank.All my lawn equipment starts right up after winetr storage and the home burner no longer struggles as it used to, since using this product.http://mystarbrite.com/startron/
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 03:33 PM
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We have few guys in here who work on engines, do engine rebuilds, and others have seen all types of engines parts.

This picture is total BULL-SH8T

There is no valve out there that would look like that after been driven. That would be an used valve, and a new valve from a package.

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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 06:46 PM
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How do you figure?

I stated in my post that the intake valves on my 200k mile beater, looked like the valve on the right. What is BS? The valve on the left??

I've never seen a new valve that was black.

The pic (and the ad campaign) is retarded...I posted it as a reference, adn to show that no "additives" are necessary w/today's gasoline.
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by braveheart3158
Star Tron...I use this in all my lawn equipment, cars and put the one for diesal in my home oil tank.All my lawn equipment starts right up after winetr storage and the home burner no longer struggles as it used to, since using this product.http://mystarbrite.com/startron/
By the way I neglected to mention that this is not a chemical, it's a natural enzyme.
Ever look at the gas in a portable gas container after about 30 days? Little black specs at the bottom and s slick film on top? Think about the amount of time the gas sits in a Vettes gas tank. Many Vettes are driven only on weekends.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by braveheart3158
By the way I neglected to mention that this is not a chemical, it's a natural enzyme.
Ever look at the gas in a portable gas container after about 30 days? Little black specs at the bottom and s slick film on top? Think about the amount of time the gas sits in a Vettes gas tank. Many Vettes are driven only on weekends.
It's not a chemical? Seriously??
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Pre-1994 Multec I injectors should not be cleaned, and no additives are recommended. These are wet-coil injectors with deposit-control tips. Multec I injectors built after 1994 are wet coil injectors with deposit control, but because of internal changes, these injectors can be cleaned, and an additive can be used to prevent deposit buildup.

Multec II injectors which I beleive are used in vettes after 92 (?) are a dry-coil, deposit control design with several internal changes, including the use of stainless steel and an increase in core stroke. If deposits build at the tips of the injectors a cleaner can be used, but I would only do that if you've noticed driveability and/or gas milage issues first...barring you've changed the fuel filter first!
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 11:12 AM
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IIRC, Multec II came into play in 2000?
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by aklim
IIRC, Multec II came into play in 2000?
Actually I think you might be right on the Multec II and I was thinking of the redesigned Multec I...memory just isn't what it used to be...LOL.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Cliff Harris
10% ethanol won't hurt most cars. Higher concentrations tend to dissolve certain kinds of rubber, such as in hoses and seals.

There were some years where the fuel flowed around the coil in the injector (to keep it cool) and the ethanol tends to dissolve the insulation used on the coil wire, which shorts out the injectors. Multec is the name of these guys. Used from '89 - '94.
As long as the tree huggers dont get the 15% ethanol the cars will make out ok. But that same engine in a marine enviorment and you have trouble. Our tax dollars at work!
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Originally Posted by markKlein
It's not a chemical? Seriously??
Yes seriously. A copy and paste from their website below. I suspect that you did not visit the link I posted? I do not work for this company I just use the product. I have no motive here other then to help other Vette owners if I can.
Why would anyone want to run fuel through there system when it turns to laquer or has small black specs of whatever they are?

Star Tron® does not contain any harmful chemical strippers or solvents found in some chemical additives that could contaminate your engine’s oil or break off large pieces of carbon that might stick in a compression ring.
Star Tron® is a revolutionary multifunctional fuel treatment based on
naturally-occurring enzymes
. While this is a unique application of enzyme technology, we encounter various enzymes in our everyday lives. For example, enzymes in laundry detergents break down dirt and stains so that they may be easily washed away, even in cold water. Enzymes in the human digestive system break down food into components that are easily used by the body to produce energy. Functioning as biocatalysts, enzymes increase and control the rate of chemical reactions. Star Tron® uses highly specialized enzymes to modify how gasoline and diesel fuel burns, resulting in more complete and uniform combustion with reduced engine emissions. This same enzyme package breaks down fuel sludge and allows water to be dispersed throughout the fuel as sub-micron sized droplets that can be eliminated as the engine operates while also cleaning the entire fuel delivery system. Contaminants are either safely burned off or filtered out, and fuel chemistry is stabilized for long-term storage.

Here is a direct link to the page. http://mystarbrite.com/startron//con...12/34/lang,en/

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About Ethanol... form their site.
In addition to a loss of power and economy, E-10 can cause other problems. Ethanol is hygroscopic, meaning that it will attract water from the air, which is absorbed into the gas. The water bonds to the ethanol, becoming heavier than gas and the mixture sinks, lowering the octane level and causing performance problems. This is Phase Separation. Cold temperatures will accelerate this separation. Ethanol is also a potent solvent that will loosen old gum and varnish deposits, which can darken the fuel and foul filters and fuel injectors with large particles. The mixture of ethanol, water and particles can form a gelatinous sludge layer on the tank bottom that can block filters and damage your engine. During operation, Star Tron’s® powerful enzymes allow water to be dispersed throughout the fuel as sub-micron sized droplets that are safely eliminated as the engine operates. They also slowly break down the sludge, cleaning out your fuel tank while restoring the gas’ combustion characteristics to insure proper and safe engine operation.

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During the initial treatment, sludge and other deposits that are dispersed may cause plugging or loading of fuel filters. Check fuel filters at the first sign of diminished performance and carry extra filters for convenient replacement. Once your system is clean, your filters will last longer and smoke and soot will be drastically reduced.
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Originally Posted by braveheart3158
By the way I neglected to mention that this is not a chemical, it's a natural enzyme.
Ever look at the gas in a portable gas container after about 30 days? Little black specs at the bottom and s slick film on top? Think about the amount of time the gas sits in a Vettes gas tank. Many Vettes are driven only on weekends.
Sorry to break this to you, but everything is chemicals. Water is chemicals, enzymes are chemicals, you are chemicals.
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by markKlein
Sorry to break this to you, but everything is chemicals. Water is chemicals, enzymes are chemicals, you are chemicals.
Maybe I should have said natural enzyme and not man made enzyme?
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