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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 11:20 AM
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So a little back story. The gentleman that previously owned the car was a bit of a mechanical "hot mess" Not a DIY sort of guy. He was running the car about 95 and started blowing a lot of smoke. Oil on the exhaust type of smoke. My job is to fix this problem....
I don't see much of a leak when the car is sitting. It hardly leaks at all when idling.. When you start to drive and things get pressurized, thats when the fun starts.
I have one valve cover gasket replaced which didn't fix anything..

I see oil pooling here in front of the block

Is there a high pressure oil line here? would that be something that would leak if the RPM's were high? The car has 88K miles, and has sat for awhile, so it's possible a hose or seal has split/cracked.
I am just looking for a starting point.

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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 11:47 AM
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The coolant lines are notorious for leaking. They usually split where the rubber and metal meet. I replaced mine with 1/2in rubber trans coolant lines, and then found the next leak, and so on, and so on. Now this week I just got another coming from the passenger side. These motors have really good oil pressure, so as soon as you seal one spot it moves to the next weakest point. h
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 12:22 PM
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Check your PCV hose! Mine was collapsed and the pressure was shooting oil out of the dipstick onto the exhaust.
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AirForceOne!
Check your PCV hose! Mine was collapsed and the pressure was shooting oil out of the dipstick onto the exhaust.
Interesting...he said he thought it was the dipstick, and I see the PCV has no hose on it. That wouldn't explain the oil pooling in the original picture though......
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 04:27 PM
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You'd be suprised, mine sprayed everywhere! There's a lot of pressure in there!
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 04:38 PM
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I am going to check it out tonight.

Thanks for the info!
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 10:17 PM
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Is there oil on the under side of the hood? My '92 started leaking at the front gasket and there was a line of oil that had been thrown up on the under side of the hood. Oil was also in the area shown in your photo.
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 12:33 PM
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The oil seems to be coming from this line. Can anyone tell me what it is called so I can purchase a new one and fix my leak? Thanks!!!

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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 12:55 PM
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On mine those are Transmission coolant lines. Not sure if they are different from year to year though. You keep saying its oil, but if it were tranny fluid, it would be red, so Im a bit confused, but on mine I have tranny lines on the passenger side, and oil on the drivers side. You can replace them with rubber, just make sure you use ones for oil. h
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 01:05 PM
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I figured those were for the transmission. I am hoping my transmission fluid doesn't look like old oil! I am fairly sure that is the leak though, so I guess a little more digging.....
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Do the lines go into the radiator? If so, they are tranny lines. You might try tightening them, as there isnt many places where they can leak. Check you tranny fluid too, if its leaking that bad, it should be low. h
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 01:24 PM
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They don't go into the radiator. They actually go into what looks like the front steering stabalizer. Now mind you, this is my first vette, and I am still not sure what everything is under the hood. But, from a 4X4 lovers perspective, it looks like they go into the steering stabalizer, or the front axle. (from a 4X4'ers perspective) I know that is NOT what it is, but I am not sure what the line are going into.
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I'm really not a noob with cars and engines. But I am too large to poke around underneath it, and I haven't been under the hood enough yet!
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 01:43 PM
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The more I think about this, I am almost convinced it is the transmission lines. That would explain why idling doesn't leak, but when in drive and getting the RPM's up the fluid starts flying!
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Nostrashawnus
They don't go into the radiator. They actually go into what looks like the front steering stabalizer. Now mind you, this is my first vette, and I am still not sure what everything is under the hood. But, from a 4X4 lovers perspective, it looks like they go into the steering stabalizer, or the front axle. (from a 4X4'ers perspective) I know that is NOT what it is, but I am not sure what the line are going into.
I can't imagine anything that might look like a "steering stabilizer" to a 4X4 lover, other than the steering rack and pinion. I guess, when working properly, the rack and pinion does provide stabilization, and it does have fluid lines running into it. Old power steering fluid can get pretty dark and grundgy, but you wouldn't go very long losing fluid before the pump would start whining and loss of power assist, so it is hard to say for sure.
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 01:50 AM
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Your "steering stabilizer" is the steering rack.

I think you might have a leak at the timing chain cover. On my car the outer ring of the harmonic balancer came loose and walked into the timing chain cover and rubbed a hole in it. You can tell if this is your problem by looking at the timing tab on the timing chain cover. The front edge of the harmonic balancer should be about 3/8" in front of the timing tab. Here's a pic (this is not a Corvette, but you get the idea):



This is what a timing chain cover looks like after the harmonic balancer outer ring has walked into it. I sealed the hole with JB Weld about 10 years ago. I just pulled this off because the crankshaft seal was leaking.


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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 10:45 AM
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Here's a balancer that has separated. When the outer ring creeps back off of the inner hub it eventually makes contact with the timing cover and carves a hole in it. (photo courtesy of hitmanpty)
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 11:48 AM
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Your front main seal is bad.

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That's odd. I also had an oil leak but never found it. My hose to my PCV valve was collapsed and when I replaced it the oil leak stopped. My FSM states that a bad PCV can cause oil leaks I just don't know where it was coming out. This was a very small leak and as far as I know it never reached the ground but did coat the starter area. My dipstick also kept popping out. Maybe that is where it came from.

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Thank you everyone for the suggestions. I still haven't found the leak, but please keep throwing out ideas!

Question: Can the timing cover be replaced without pulling the engine?

Thanks!
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