which code to start with
i scanned the ecm today and recieved these codes:
13....O2 sensor left side
15....coolant signal voltage high
23....Mat sensor temp low
45....rich exhaust left side
46.... vats error
Finally
51....mem cal error
i know why i have the O2 codes, the idiot i bought the car from disconnected/broke the O2 sensor off. so there is a plug where the left O2 is supposed to be.
also i ohemed out the injectors and these readings.
6 injectors are reading 16.8 ohms when cold and hot
1 injector is reading 14.0 ohms when cold and 12 ohms when hot
1 injector is reading 15.8 ohms when cod and 14 ohms when hot
should i change those two injectors
this car is driving me crazy








any help wil be greatly appreciated.
The O2 sensors are what the ECM bases most of its fuel decisions on...
Fix THAT 1st.
Next and just as important, its time for injectors. Like it or not, yours are borderline and they are definitely ANTIQUES.
Injectors from 1990 were never intended to be soaked in a solvent like alcohol. the inner seats/seals dry up from the alcohols and the inj starts to spray wet gas instead of an atomized 'fog' as it should. Wet gas does not burn well and coupled with a dead o2 sensor that easily explains the rich code...
new inj from FIC cost about $250 and come with all the O-rings and runner gaskets. Yes, you need to do the rails too, since the alcohol hardens those O-rings and makes them want to leak after you handle the rails swapping injectors.
Good luck, its not a hard job.
because engine will be in LIMP HOME mode which you may well be given how the engine is running
Usually cause by the memcal ( chip ) in the computer no being seated correctly
If you had a VATS fault the engine would not start at all because VATS takes out the fuel injectors while cranking over
Biggest priority after fixing the injectors would be to sort the DTC 15.
If the wrong temp indication is being sent to the ECM then it throws everything out.
Engine will happily run with no O2 input ( just stays in open loop ) but a bad/ wrong / no temp input affects everything
You might consider reviewing the diagnostic charts in the FSM as how to identify and fix a fault
http://www.chevythunder.com/cts_diagnostics.htm
http://www.chevythunder.com/cts_diagnostic_pg2.htm
The O2 sensors are what the ECM bases most of its fuel decisions on...
Fix THAT 1st.
Next and just as important, its time for injectors. Like it or not, yours are borderline and they are definitely ANTIQUES.
Injectors from 1990 were never intended to be soaked in a solvent like alcohol. the inner seats/seals dry up from the alcohols and the inj starts to spray wet gas instead of an atomized 'fog' as it should. Wet gas does not burn well and coupled with a dead o2 sensor that easily explains the rich code...
new inj from FIC cost about $250 and come with all the O-rings and runner gaskets. Yes, you need to do the rails too, since the alcohol hardens those O-rings and makes them want to leak after you handle the rails swapping injectors.
Good luck, its not a hard job.
The previous owner said he changed the Injectors already. So those aren't the originals
because engine will be in LIMP HOME mode which you may well be given how the engine is running
Usually cause by the memcal ( chip ) in the computer no being seated correctly
If you had a VATS fault the engine would not start at all because VATS takes out the fuel injectors while cranking over
Biggest priority after fixing the injectors would be to sort the DTC 15.
If the wrong temp indication is being sent to the ECM then it throws everything out.
Engine will happily run with no O2 input ( just stays in open loop ) but a bad/ wrong / no temp input affects everything
You might consider reviewing the diagnostic charts in the FSM as how to identify and fix a fault
http://www.chevythunder.com/cts_diagnostics.htm
http://www.chevythunder.com/cts_diagnostic_pg2.htm
because engine will be in LIMP HOME mode which you may well be given how the engine is running
Usually cause by the memcal ( chip ) in the computer no being seated correctly
If you had a VATS fault the engine would not start at all because VATS takes out the fuel injectors while cranking over
Biggest priority after fixing the injectors would be to sort the DTC 15.
If the wrong temp indication is being sent to the ECM then it throws everything out.
Engine will happily run with no O2 input ( just stays in open loop ) but a bad/ wrong / no temp input affects everything
You might consider reviewing the diagnostic charts in the FSM as how to identify and fix a fault
http://www.chevythunder.com/cts_diagnostics.htm
http://www.chevythunder.com/cts_diagnostic_pg2.htm
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