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Old 11-19-2013, 08:58 PM
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:49 AM
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So I got the engine in the car. I had to have the distributor collar machined off and put a adjustable slip collar on the dist housing because the dist didn't go in deep enough. That solved that problem. The headers actually bolted right up. I didn't know how that was going to work out. The alternator bracket I made the holes were off since one end went to the water pump and the other went to the head. So I had to make a new bracket. And I found a place for the oil filter. I modded my old cruise control bracket for that. And with the battery in the back it ends up where the battery was. You can also see I had to make a oil line to hook my sender units to.








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Jim, great pictures and great progress! Do you have a lot of trouble getting the engine back in place with the trans already in car? The whole front end of my car will be off, so I will try the engine/trans combo for install.
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I saw the spacers for the intake to match up with the tall deck. I'm curious how you sealed the intake manifold on the front and rear rails.
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Jim, great pictures and great progress! Do you have a lot of trouble getting the engine back in place with the trans already in car? The whole front end of my car will be off, so I will try the engine/trans combo for install.
It's not hard to get the engine back in with the trans in place. I forgot to mention. I had to notch the crossmember for the oil pan. I boxed it in afterwards so there was no loss of strength in the crossmember. I could have modified the oil pan at the front, but decided to do the crossmember instead.
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I saw the spacers for the intake to match up with the tall deck. I'm curious how you sealed the intake manifold on the front and rear rails.
The spacers from Dart come with spacers for the end rails also. You can see them in this pic.

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Very cool! Just curious what kind of distributor are you running?
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Very cool! Just curious what kind of distributor are you running?
It's a MSD small cap HEI.
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Very Cool!!

What bell housing are you using?

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Wow Jim. Great pics. I would love to say what part is my favorite but I can't. I love them all. The Dart Iron Eagle tall deck, The Crower Crank with knife edging (that is the part I am truly jealous of) By far the nicest crank I have had the pleasure to see and touch, the 6.20 inch Crower Maxi Lite rods that look way to big to put in a small block, the Crower shaft system to put the final touch on the AFR 245'S to allow them to breath to their full potential. I can't wait to go for a ride. I'm praying for sunshine in November. Seriously.
Hi guy's. I gave some bad info on the crank. It's a Lunati and it is awesome. it's the first and only crank I have seen in person with the knife edging. They do cost more than the average forged crank, but if you have the money they are worth the price of admission. At first Jim was going to go with the Crower crank but the Lunati worked better with his application. Sorry Jim!!!!

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Originally Posted by STEVEN13
Very Cool!!

What bell housing are you using?

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It's a stock bellhousing, but I have a Deist bellhousing blanket for it.
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Jim, I was wondering if you stick with the ZF, have you thought about a scatter shield? Not sure they even make those for a ZF application but that thought crossed my mind. What's usually the power threshold where one should consider a scatter shield?
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Jim, I was wondering if you stick with the ZF, have you thought about a scatter shield? Not sure they even make those for a ZF application but that thought crossed my mind. What's usually the power threshold where one should consider a scatter shield?
My bellhousing blanket is basically a scattershield. NHRA rules say you need one to run 11.49 or quicker.
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Originally Posted by tpi 421 vette
My bellhousing blanket is basically a scattershield. NHRA rules say you need one to run 11.49 or quicker.
My auto shop teacher back in the late 60's was a racer. He was adamant about scatter shields. He had one let go and the shield stopped it from taking his leg or worse. The clutch plate instead went down, hit the pavement and came back up through his back seat.
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Originally Posted by tpi 421 vette
It's a stock bellhousing, but I have a Deist bellhousing blanket for it.
Good to know-Thanks for the info!

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Jim-

You mentioned that the headers went on without a hitch, so no clearance issues at all? Also, what headers are you running? Please elaborate on the belt driven bracket modifications, this is a big deal when trying to work in a tall-deck block.
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The headers just need a ding in the front right tube to fit. It's now close to the control arm, but everything clears. My headers were hand built. But Tim (The Toy) also put a tall deck in his C4. He had off the shelf Hooker headers, and his headers also fit. So with the obvious potential problems headers could have fitting, they bolt right up. I did have all the bolts started but loose before I tightened everything up.

The bracketry is a different story. Any bracket that goes from the block to the heads, the bolt holes will be off. The deck is raised .300, the heads are higher and wider than stock. I had to make a new bracket from my water pump to the alternator which the lower bolt is bolted to the heads. The bolt holes needed to be farther out.


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