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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 01:40 PM
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I just recently purchased a 1992 coupe with a 6 speed trans. Replaced the clutch and now at certain rpm's (mostly under a load) I get a noise. Especially on highway at 60-70 in 6th gear. I suppose could be a bearing. does anyone know where to either a) buy a rebuilt trans, b) get it rebuilt (NE PA.) c) get a rebuild kit for the current tranny.
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 02:48 PM
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Call the owner here, he is THE MAN.

http://www.zfdoc.com/
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 02:55 PM
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60 is a little soon to be in 6th hope youre not hearing pinging from lugging the motor
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
60 is a little soon to be in 6th hope youre not hearing pinging from lugging the motor
I'm curious on how 60 is soon for 6th? In my car (3.45) I'm pretty sure that is 1600rpm.

(Not hijacking I just don't think that is the problem)

Maybe you left something loose
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 05:15 PM
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Thank you, I will call him.
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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Definitely not engine. On the highway at 60-65 is not early. I cruise at 70 and it is still there. Thank you.
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 05:20 PM
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Had my mechanic do the work. I thought about the "loose" thing.
I took if back and had it checked. They are telling me tranny. Close friend so I trust him. Thank you for your response. I love this site. Everyone is always so helpful.
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by toptechx6
Call the owner here, he is THE MAN.

http://www.zfdoc.com/
I agree, my blue tag zf is making noise and everyone has said needs rebuild (even friend who owns a shop) Bill however said to try the 089 shim kit first (under $50). If that is not the fix I will be shipping mine to him for the rebuild.

As your vette is a 92 you more likely have a black tag zf but, one thing you may also want to check is the flywheel. A dual mass flywheel is used to dampen and if bad it will make noise at low rpm and idle.

Contact Bill he knows ZF6 trans better than anyone I have found.
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Awesome thanks. Interesting on the flywheel as I just replaced that as well. I am gonna give Bill's number to my friend. I like the idea of a $50 kit. Just spent a ton and can only hope for that. This 92 has sat for seven years and when drained the tranny, it was like milk. Knew that was not good news.
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based on the info above I would tend to say rebuild is in order, "milk" like lube is not good

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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 07:31 PM
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Just a thought but Im guessing you wasn't getting the noise BEFORE you changed the clutch? sounds to me like something in the clutch or during install is to blame if thats the case, not the trans, what was the reason for changing the clutch,was it slipping?
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 07:36 PM
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Lost the clutch completely. When removed was tilt the flywheel was sheared off. So it has new flywheel as well.
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 07:44 PM
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Rocks in a can? I am gonna check on the light weight flywheel. That could be it. Again, thanks.
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Originally Posted by golfnbowln
Lost the clutch completely. When removed was tilt the flywheel was sheared off. So it has new flywheel as well.
If you had a shop do this and you did not specifically buy the parts, than I am 99.9% sure that you have a single mass flywheel. More than likely one of the 'extra mass' ones out there. So you will have some noise, due to the sharp gear cuts in the ZF trans.

When acclerating under lower rpms you will get some 'rattle' but it should dissipate as the rpms go up. However, you should not have it so much if cruising at constant speed, if you accelerate in 6th gear you'll get a little rattle.
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Milky fluid, did the car sit for a long time ?
I had a differential (all new) sit for a few yrs when I dumped it the new fluid looked as you described. Condensation over time
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 01:38 PM
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I talked to my tech. He went single as you said. That looks to be the issue. He spoke to a couple of people that said pretty much the same. I did give him the http://www.zfdoc.com/ info this morning and he is going to speak with Bill as well. I really want to thank everyone for their help. It's been 25 years since I owned a vette and I lost touch. You all have helped enlighten me.
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Originally Posted by golfnbowln
I talked to my tech. He went single as you said. That looks to be the issue. He spoke to a couple of people that said pretty much the same. I did give him the http://www.zfdoc.com/ info this morning and he is going to speak with Bill as well. I really want to thank everyone for their help. It's been 25 years since I owned a vette and I lost touch. You all have helped enlighten me.
This I guess would fall under "other suggestions" BUT I believe it should be your first move.

You might "first" ask your tech what he used for "lubricant"? If there were any questions regarding the drain the first fill should have been changed very soon, a stretch would have been a few hundred miles and if it was "terrible" it should have been "run-in" on stands, drained then refilled with the appropriate lubricant before ever seeing the street. The "lubricant" is important and assuming the shop didn't advise you going in that the replacement was a "single-mass" there's an equally good chance they made a poor choice in the fill.

I'm not going to recommend a fill but choice is "important"!!

Way to much "rush to judgment" on the mention of rebuild required.

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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 02:02 PM
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I will talk to my tech again today. I only have 100 +/- since replaced. I stopped driving when I heard the noise. I will make sure lube is changed again. Do you happen to know what is recommended after a changeover? I know factory is SAE 5w-30.
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Originally Posted by golfnbowln
I will talk to my tech again today. I only have 100 +/- since replaced. I stopped driving when I heard the noise. I will make sure lube is changed again. Do you happen to know what is recommended after a changeover? I know factory is SAE 5w-30.
I've used only the factory fill 1052931 (I still have) and I've used the Castrol TWS 10W60 fill that is the recommended by ZF. If I were doing it and didn't have access to either I'd consider a 10W30 fill like maybe the RP HPS 10W30 from NAPA. It's relatively easy to source and I don't care what's mentioned about "syncro-mesh" synthetics I believe that maybe the "frequency" of the services might be as or more important than "the product"! I don't use the AMSOIL and won't, it's more to do with the "marketing approach" maybe than the product.

I did meet an Amsoil rep this past summer and he was for sure a "good guy" and if I did decide to maybe give it a try he would be my go to.

I'm not trying to sell anything here but I do have an NOS ZF that would be a fit for your car but the T/O bearing guide would need changed from yours to it to use the new release bearing you've got now. I do have a "low mile" later '95 or '96 also. I'd have to check the tag to see which year. If you get to the point to where you actually consider removing it again you also want to confirm it's got the correct T/O bearing installed. There are two.

Have the shop check all of the attaching hardware for the C-beam, the pinion flange etc.

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In defense of the tech, probably didn't 'advise' on the single mass replacement, as it is the only option in terms of new replacement flywheels. It just is what it is.
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