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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 01:37 AM
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I checked, only one flasher. There is a second flasher for the hazard. If they all flash with the hazard, at least you know all the bulbs are good. But just to make sure, turn on the hazard, walk around the car and make sure all 4 rear bulbs, the two front turn bulbs, and the two side marker lights all flash.

Ok I just put on the hazards again and inside the car the signals were both blinking, however I took a walk around the car and the light in the back on the drivers side closest to the license plate did not come on! I had told my 2nd choice mechanic (my first choice is not close and expensive) that it was the back light closest to the outside of the drivers side. So thats my fault here. Now I have to find the right tool to get the screws out of that light. Do you know what size works for the tail light because I think I need to invest in one anyway. I am pretty sure its a torx screwdriver but not sure what size. I have read you need to take out the license plate? Why cant I just remove the screws on the lens for the tail light?

Once again tonight the alarm sounded after I purchased a brand new battery and set the PKE system. I thought I was out of the woods with this since I didnt hear the alarm go off for about 4 hours then low and behold I heard my alarm. I opened the door with the key to stop the alarm from sounding and manually locked the door. The alarm did not sound so I am thinking I should not hear it go off in the middle of the night now. The security light still flashes when I get in the car.

Is this a separate issue? Probably.... I was thinking that perhaps if I fix this bulb problem then I wont have the other but somehow I highly doubt it. Going to replace the bulb tomorrow. If you would be so kind to let me know the tool I need and the correct way to re-install the bulb. Thanks so much. I really appreciate your reply.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 02:11 AM
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Jackie, my best wishes to your husband! They're doing some amazing things these days! I'm in the same boat with him! (Long story!)
I don't know '95's so well, but you're right about changing that errant light bulb. If the screws are visible in the lens, your job is easy. It's either a phillips (+) or a torx (*) screw driver. Earlier Corvette tail light bulb changes are a real pain in the arm! Put some dielectric grease on the base of the new light bulb to assure a good connection and a corrosion free life for the bulb. Your friendly auto parts store guys will probably do this job for you.
If only the driver's side has the faulty operation, your turn signal flasher is not the problem! There is only one turn signal flasher.
Regarding your late-night car alarm problem, can you lock the doors manually so the alarm is not activated? This is obviously only a temporary solution until you figure out the door ajar switch (or whatever) problem. Does csthews suggestion work on your car (post #4)?
Where are you located? You may have a friendly Corvette owner nearby who could help you!


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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 02:37 AM
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Jackie, my best wishes to your husband! They're doing some amazing things these days! I'm in the same boat with him! (Long story!)
I don't know '95's so well, but you're right about changing that errant light bulb. If the screws are visible in the lens, your job is easy. It's either a phillips (+) or a torx (*) screw driver. Earlier Corvette tail light bulb changes are a real pain in the arm! Put some dielectric grease on the base of the new light bulb to assure a good connection and a corrosion free life for the bulb. Your friendly auto parts store guys will probably do this job for you.
If only the driver's side has the faulty operation, your turn signal flasher is not the problem! There is only one turn signal flasher.
Regarding your late-night car alarm problem, can you lock the doors manually so the alarm is not activated? This is obviously only a temporary solution until you figure out the door ajar switch (or whatever) problem. Does csthews suggestion work on your car (post #4)?
Where are you located? You may have a friendly Corvette owner nearby who could help you!

Yes I can lock the doors manually so the alarm is not activated. Its a torx for sure. I will have to check on post #4 from csthews and reply this car is making me nuts but I still love her. I am in North Orange County California. I hope you are doing better yourself now. He just got home from chemo and he feels like $^&&. We are keeping the faith though have to.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 02:49 AM
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Jackie, my best wishes to your husband! They're doing some amazing things these days! I'm in the same boat with him! (Long story!)
I don't know '95's so well, but you're right about changing that errant light bulb. If the screws are visible in the lens, your job is easy. It's either a phillips (+) or a torx (*) screw driver. Earlier Corvette tail light bulb changes are a real pain in the arm! Put some dielectric grease on the base of the new light bulb to assure a good connection and a corrosion free life for the bulb. Your friendly auto parts store guys will probably do this job for you.
If only the driver's side has the faulty operation, your turn signal flasher is not the problem! There is only one turn signal flasher.
Regarding your late-night car alarm problem, can you lock the doors manually so the alarm is not activated? This is obviously only a temporary solution until you figure out the door ajar switch (or whatever) problem. Does csthews suggestion work on your car (post #4)?
Where are you located? You may have a friendly Corvette owner nearby who could help you!

Actually opening the door manually with the key disarmed it and now the interior lights are not staying on after shutting the door twice. So I wont have to worry about my new battery being drained at the moment...When it did initially go crazy just coincidence (after I picked in up from valet) the drivers door was making this obnoxious noise interior lights going nuts and the door ajar light was on. A week prior the window on the drivers side did not go up. Shame on me I jiggled it a bit and it went up and has ever since but now I am wondering what I may have done this could all be my fault. I may have to bring her to my corvette mechanic in a few weeks. I was just trying to do as much as I could on my own because he is very good but needs me to bring it in. Hes real swamped right now and expensive too and I cannot be without my car right now with all that is going on. Yes I can bring it back to my local Pep Boys but honestly I feel like and idiot for telling him it was the wrong light. It was the day I was picking up my husband from the hospital and I assumed....it was that outer light WRONG. After being told to literally walk around the car from csthews with the hazards on I found out it was the inside light that was not lit. So THANKS CSTHEWS
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 03:32 AM
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If the bulbs all work OK with the 4-way flasher then the problem is in the turn signal switch or related wiring.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 09:41 AM
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I'm pretty sure you have bad door switch. Mine acted very much like yours. If you can't get to fixing it right now, see if you can deactivate your PKE, and just use your key to unlock and the manual power lock switch to lock for now. This should keep you from having to make the late night trip to shut the car up.

The door switch can be replaced without removing the door panel, but it's a little tricky. There is mounting bracket, and your main goal is to ensure that bracket doesn't fall out of place. If it does, then the door panel has to come off. The good news is that these switches are a generic type and readily available.

(It's been a couple of years, so I can remember the step by step, but it's pretty straight forward to look at. I remember needing a screw driver and then a small punch or even a hook type instrument to hold the bracket, would be ideal. But the switch will come out from the hole, and I remember having to hold the bracket in place by putting one of the screws in the top, and swinging the bracket around to pull the switch. Again, just don't let it drop. I also remember needing some patience.)

If your rear flasher bulb is out, that is why you are getting the steady on condition. The hazards will flash, because being an 'emergency' function it will override the system and flash all the lights that work. However, for a turn signal, the steady on is to inform you that a light is out. Replace the bulb that is not flashing and you will be good to go.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 10:20 AM
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I'm pretty sure you have bad door switch. Mine acted very much like yours. If you can't get to fixing it right now, see if you can deactivate your PKE, and just use your key to unlock and the manual power lock switch to lock for now. This should keep you from having to make the late night trip to shut the car up.

The door switch can be replaced without removing the door panel, but it's a little tricky. There is mounting bracket, and your main goal is to ensure that bracket doesn't fall out of place. If it does, then the door panel has to come off. The good news is that these switches are a generic type and readily available.

(It's been a couple of years, so I can remember the step by step, but it's pretty straight forward to look at. I remember needing a screw driver and then a small punch or even a hook type instrument to hold the bracket, would be ideal. But the switch will come out from the hole, and I remember having to hold the bracket in place by putting one of the screws in the top, and swinging the bracket around to pull the switch. Again, just don't let it drop. I also remember needing some patience.)

If your rear flasher bulb is out, that is why you are getting the steady on condition. The hazards will flash, because being an 'emergency' function it will override the system and flash all the lights that work. However, for a turn signal, the steady on is to inform you that a light is out. Replace the bulb that is not flashing and you will be good to go.
Keep in mind that although disabling the alarm will keep it from alarming at night, you will still have the issue with the interior lights until you replace the bad door ajar switch. I originally had an issue with the interior lights NOT coming on when I opened the driver's door. So I removed the switch (I didn't read the FSM prior, so I didn't know about the bracket until AFTER it slid down the wiring harness which forced me to remove the inner panel ) Taking the cheap route, I thought I could repair mine by drilling two small holes in the switch, spraying it down with contact cleaner, then blowing it out. It seemed to work for about a year, but now I'm having the opposite effect, but it only happens when it is cold (not sure if that really has anything to do with it).

You mentioned removing the licensce plate to get to the bulb. I know you have to do that to replace the back-up bulbs, but I'm not so sure if you have to do that for the tail lights. If so, it isn't that big of a deal. There is a big gap behind the license plate. You should be able to run your arm through the gap, twist out the bulb, and pull the bulb, and wire back to the license plate opening.

Finally, I suggest that you go to Walmart or Harbor Freight and buy a cheap star tool set. Chevy used those screws throughout the interior and exterior of the car. You don't really need anything high dollar for most jobs. (When you start pulling hubs, well that is a different story)



Good luck with your car. It will take a lot of patience, but overall it isn't that bad. Best wishes on your husband's recovery.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackie O
Yes I can bring it back to my local Pep Boys but honestly I feel like and idiot for telling him it was the wrong light.
You're not an idiot! The Pep guy didn't do a very good job for you. He should have checked what he was doing. Don't feel bad about going back to them again. You'll surely get a different guy (or gal) that knows what they're doing! If you want to get the torx tool, Pep has a nice set of 6 for about $12. They also have that dielectric grease to put on the base of your new light bulb.

Look for my PM. I've met two other 'vette owners on this forum that live within two miles of me!

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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 01:48 PM
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You're not an idiot! The Pep guy didn't do a very good job for you. He should have checked what he was doing. Don't feel bad about going back to them again. You'll surely get a different guy (or gal) that knows what they're doing! If you want to get the torx tool, Pep has a nice set of 6 for about $12. They also have that dielectric grease to put on the base of your new light bulb.

Look for my PM. I've met two other 'vette owners on this forum that live within two miles of me!

Thank you. Yes I will either have to go back to Pep Boys or do it myself. I actually have known this guy for a while when he worked at another service place. He was doing this at a favor for me at no charge. They were quite busy this day and he knew I was in a bind. I will definitely check on the torx set there and the grease. Appreciate the response.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 01:53 PM
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Keep in mind that although disabling the alarm will keep it from alarming at night, you will still have the issue with the interior lights until you replace the bad door ajar switch. I originally had an issue with the interior lights NOT coming on when I opened the driver's door. So I removed the switch (I didn't read the FSM prior, so I didn't know about the bracket until AFTER it slid down the wiring harness which forced me to remove the inner panel ) Taking the cheap route, I thought I could repair mine by drilling two small holes in the switch, spraying it down with contact cleaner, then blowing it out. It seemed to work for about a year, but now I'm having the opposite effect, but it only happens when it is cold (not sure if that really has anything to do with it).

You mentioned removing the licensce plate to get to the bulb. I know you have to do that to replace the back-up bulbs, but I'm not so sure if you have to do that for the tail lights. If so, it isn't that big of a deal. There is a big gap behind the license plate. You should be able to run your arm through the gap, twist out the bulb, and pull the bulb, and wire back to the license plate opening.

Finally, I suggest that you go to Walmart or Harbor Freight and buy a cheap star tool set. Chevy used those screws throughout the interior and exterior of the car. You don't really need anything high dollar for most jobs. (When you start pulling hubs, well that is a different story)



Good luck with your car. It will take a lot of patience, but overall it isn't that bad. Best wishes on your husband's recovery.
Yes I have been a little short on the patience part and miss my garage, hard to do some of this at an apartment complex. Thank you for the response and well wishes. Walmart is close by and I need to invest in a set of torx anyways and walmart is pretty economical.
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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 02:05 AM
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Keep in mind that although disabling the alarm will keep it from alarming at night, you will still have the issue with the interior lights until you replace the bad door ajar switch. I originally had an issue with the interior lights NOT coming on when I opened the driver's door. So I removed the switch (I didn't read the FSM prior, so I didn't know about the bracket until AFTER it slid down the wiring harness which forced me to remove the inner panel ) Taking the cheap route, I thought I could repair mine by drilling two small holes in the switch, spraying it down with contact cleaner, then blowing it out. It seemed to work for about a year, but now I'm having the opposite effect, but it only happens when it is cold (not sure if that really has anything to do with it).

You mentioned removing the licensce plate to get to the bulb. I know you have to do that to replace the back-up bulbs, but I'm not so sure if you have to do that for the tail lights. If so, it isn't that big of a deal. There is a big gap behind the license plate. You should be able to run your arm through the gap, twist out the bulb, and pull the bulb, and wire back to the license plate opening.

Finally, I suggest that you go to Walmart or Harbor Freight and buy a cheap star tool set. Chevy used those screws throughout the interior and exterior of the car. You don't really need anything high dollar for most jobs. (When you start pulling hubs, well that is a different story)



Good luck with your car. It will take a lot of patience, but overall it isn't that bad. Best wishes on your husband's recovery.
Went back to Pep Boys swallowed my pride. Of course the gentleman I normally deal with went home early so I ask where are your torx wrenches at. I told him my dilemia and he said before you buy it lets make sure it fits. All three did NOT fit. Lucky me though because the mechanic had one that fit and the size is a 15mm. So to the back of the car we go took off the lens put in the new bulb and wella! It blinks hooray!

However, this made the car start going nuts again with the drivers side door making an awful noise, doors locking an unlocking, the interior lights going on an off and yes the lovely door/ajar showing up on the display. So I went an pulled all three fuses for the interior an cargo lights and for *)*) and giggles I pulled the door lock/switch fuse as well. It appears one of the interior fuses looks broken but then how the heck would it even work if it was? Well for now they are all OUT! This evening I didnt even hear it arm and the alarm went off??? Huh? So after pulling these fuses I locked the door with the key and for now all is quiet. I want to thank you so much for your expertise you have no idea how much I appeciate your help. To the others that have replied I have learned a lot over this past week an thank you all. A little knowlegde is good and sometimes dangerous. Thanks so much. I will let you all know the outcome when I am able to bring her in and get it resolved for good.

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Went back to Pep Boys swallowed my pride. Of course the gentleman I normally deal with went home early so I ask where are your torx wrenches at. I told him my dilemia and he said before you buy it lets make sure it fits. All three did NOT fit. Lucky me though because the mechanic had one that fit and the size is a 15mm. So to the back of the car we go took off the lens put in the new bulb and wella! It blinks hooray!

However, this made the car start going nuts again with the drivers side door making an awful noise, doors locking an unlocking, the interior lights going on an off and yes the lovely door/ajar showing up on the display. So I went an pulled all three fuses for the interior an cargo lights and for *)*) and giggles I pulled the door lock/switch fuse as well. It appears one of the interior fuses looks broken but then how the heck would it even work if it was? Well for now they are all OUT! This evening I didnt even hear it arm and the alarm went off??? Huh? So after pulling these fuses I locked the door with the key and for now all is quiet. I want to thank you so much for your expertise you have no idea how much I appeciate your help. To the others that have replied I have learned a lot over this past week an thank you all. A little knowlegde is good and sometimes dangerous. Thanks so much. I will let you all know the outcome when I am able to bring her in and get it resolved for good.
Glad the turn signal issue has been straightened out. The door issue coming back is more of a coincidence than it is related to changing to bulb. The fuses you pulled will keep the interior lights from coming on and keep the doors from locking by using the switch. Unfortunately, it doesn't keep the system from arming itself (as you found out). If you don't disable your keyfob by holding the door lock button until you hear the door locks cycle, then any time you bring the fob within range of the car and then walk away, the system will arm itself (unless you use the key to lock the doors). So, until you get a chance to replace the door ajar switch (and I'm pretty sure that one of the switches is the culprit) take your fob off the keychain and leave it in your house.

One last thing, with all the posts on here requesting help with non-working key fobs, just be glad that yours is working the way it should.

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