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A friend of mine in Italy sent me this link. He's really excited about this if it works (he has a 3.4 V6 Camaro) http://www.electricsupercharger.com/ I can see how you could gain some hp just like the ram air effect, but is 10 hp at the rear wheels possible?
Seems possible to me. Its hard to feel 10 hp, though. But some people pay more for things that don't work at all. Tell him to go for it and let us know how well it works.
We all know that more air = more hp. A forum member stuck a leaf blower in his Ram Air duct and got 7rwhp on the Dyno. So I think it is possible. But as for a SOTP feeling. You won't feel it.
Well, I read the site and I believe everything they said, at least:
1) "For engines of 5.0 liters or less. Simple math would show that you would get less boost as the engine gets larger, there's more volume to fill... Unless you have a 283, or even a 265, that should leave Vetts out of this toys market.
2) Their math leaves all other claims open to question. Sez 700 watts or 50 amps draw, unless Ohms law has been repealed, I figure that 700 watts at 12 volts equals just over 58 amps. It looks like a rewound vacuum cleaner motor to me.. That Sux :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
This is just one of those things that won't die as long as there are people who:
1) Have little money.
2) Want power.
3) Know very little about how to make power.
4) Believe everything they read, no matter how self promoting it may be for maker of said product.
These electric supercharger things seem to go in cycles that come around every year and a half or so. Think about it for a moment: if it were so easy and reliable then ALL of the OEM's would be all over this idea in a flash - *news flash*- note the lack of major manufacturer interest in this type of product, in both the OEM and the aftermarket. Some of the promoters of electric superchargers claim patents, really it is patent pending, which is nothing more than an application for a patent, which has NO impact on an actual patent being granted.
I ran across a promoter of an electric supercharger at the Long Beach High Performance swap meet a little while back, laughed my head off at the guy it was so outlandish the wild claims he made. He too claimed to have a patent, but he was silent when I mentioned that I had already seen other similar products within the last couple of years. They had gotten very popular among kids interested in import car performance, but then they all took them off and threw them away when they didn't go any quicker/faster at the drags. I have yet to see anyone run with one successfully at the drags, they actually usually run slower. At another cruise spot local to me in Garden Grove I ran across a guy with a '69 (maybe '68?) Chevelle, 350 engine, that had two of these units from the swap meet vendor installed. Later that same Chevelle owner brought the car to Superior Automotive in Buena Park for some chassis dyno runs. Bottom line was that he made LESS horsepower, down by 13, with both of those electric superchargers installed. Next time I saw the Chevelle those electric superchargers were GONE.
Oh well, I expect to see questions on this bogus idea pop up again in about a year or so.
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Re: Electric Supercharger? (The Green Rocket)
First, anyone can apply for a patent. The fact it has a patent does not mean anything other than that individual has protection under USA law to sue someone else should they sell a copy of the patented design.
Second, would it not make more sense to buy a Nitrous system??
For sure the nitrous system will make the kind of power increase the electric supercharger can only dream of, especially given the ~ $700 that some of the ES systems go for. I would suspect that many of the potential ES buyers are afraid of nitrous, or feel that N2O has too many associated hassles (refilling the bottle regularly etc.).
A fair amount of the high performance industry is hype and clever use of "example" cars that achieve great/good results, but which may not be good scientific method examples.
Here is the deal the way I see it: is it not true that most of the cars they give as examples of how their product performs would have had the same results with nothing more than a low restriction air inlet and filter in place of the more restrictive factory filter and snorkel?
Maybe you would feel the extra power and even build a couple pounds of boost in a Civic, but a vette sucks a whole hell of a lot more air. Also, the oversize alternator you would need in the Civic would probably use most of your new found power.
I would think that if used on some of the vette's on this forum that thing would restrict airflow.