Drag suspension setup with 6 speed
Just realized with the all aluminum block the front of the car sits a little higher which probably also adds to the squat on take off. People wonder why I spend all the effort to keep a 25 year old racer on the road every day. Especially in AZ where AC is required as well as passing the sniffer test every year. Way less bucks than most cars not as fast = FUN!! Insurance is a pittance too.
Last edited by Randy Firor; Aug 21, 2014 at 12:08 AM. Reason: add
Just realized with the all aluminum block the front of the car sits a little higher which probably also adds to the squat on take off.
Yukon PN YP FSD44-3-30DN.
To make it physically fit in the IRS case - You have to narrow the width up about .250 and turn down the OD of the carrier bearing surfaces. It's not rocket science. Just take your old Trac Lock and measure it... Then cut the spool the same in a lathe.
After that you have to drill and tap 2 holes in the spool to retain the inner stub axles. I used 3/8" fine thread grade 10 allen cap screws. Of course you have grind a small flat spot on the inner stub axle for the bolt end to engage. This takes a mock assembly of the spool in the case and the inner stub axles to measure where to drill and grind everything.
Then I machined a round piece of alum (or you could use brass or steel) so it will slide in the splines of the spool - also the same width as the spider gear cross pin out of the Trac Lock..... This is to act as a spacer inbetween the stub axles.. like the spider gear cross pin does in the factory Trac Lock. This spacer takes all the stress off the retaining bolts when the suspension compresses as the axles now press against each other (via the spacer) instead of the end of that little bolt.
I cannot stress how important this last "axle spacer piece" is.... many people before me have modified D44 spools to fit in the C4 Corvette IRS and had problems with the stub axles moving around.. which causes camber change in the rear end and the car drives like crap because of it. This axle spacer piece eliminates that. It allows the stub axles to push againt something solid like it was orginallly designed to do.
I documented the one I built for a friend of mine (93 ragtop) so people can see what I do to them and how to make them the best they can be.
http://www.corvetteforum.guru/module...orumpost205410
BTW this Trac Lok posi is in his 93 which I also built the 383 LT4 based engine in (460RWHP) and he has run 11.18@124MPH so far in street trim. He did bust a few U-Joints under full power earlier this year and the posi survived with no damage and still pulls over 100lbs breakaway.
I am glad I was able to help. I know there is not alot of folks drag racing these cars (on any real competitive level) with stock suspension so information is limited.... I found that out myself when I first started and most of the people who were racing these cars and faster than I was (at the time) were less than helpful.... I want other C4 Corvette drag racers to know what works for me and hopefully someday someone will be able to better what I have done.
Will
Last edited by rklessdriver; Aug 28, 2014 at 03:44 PM.
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I'll look at my set sheetscand get you the rear ride height.
BTW the race car is apart and being converted to a solid axle 9" with 3 link suspension currently. I have the complete D44 IRS for sale very reasonable.
Will
Last edited by rklessdriver; Jan 14, 2015 at 10:12 AM.
I have a 93 6spd vert supercharged.
I run 315/35r17 bfg drag radial 2 (now discontinued in that size)..
I cut my best 60 ft a 1.8, on a 275/40r17 bfg drag radial 2
I was not impressed this summer when i bogged on one launch (not enough gas while releasing clutch) and then spun irrecoverably/bounced off the rev limiter on the next launch. I even had the air pressures down to 18psi when this happened.
(The same night 2 diesel full size pickup trucks ran 11's that i was shooting for...)
To be honest, i had the same thing happen once on my 275/40r17 drag radials to. But here i thought 315's would be the end all for traction issues at the strip.
Needless to say, it was a bad night.
I like to be able to drive to the track, limp home carefully if it rains, and dead hook 1st gear on the street....all on the same drag radial
I have a 93 6spd vert supercharged.
I run 315/35r17 bfg drag radial 2 (now discontinued in that size)..
I cut my best 60 ft a 1.8, on a 275/40r17 bfg drag radial 2
I was not impressed this summer when i bogged on one launch (not enough gas while releasing clutch) and then spun irrecoverably/bounced off the rev limiter on the next launch. I even had the air pressures down to 18psi when this happened.
(The same night 2 diesel full size pickup trucks ran 11's that i was shooting for...)
To be honest, i had the same thing happen once on my 275/40r17 drag radials to. But here i thought 315's would be the end all for traction issues at the strip.
Needless to say, it was a bad night.
I like to be able to drive to the track, limp home carefully if it rains, and dead hook 1st gear on the street....all on the same drag radial
A couple things make the 15"-275 tires better.
1. Roll out of the taller 28" 275/60r15 helps by reducing tire rotational speed and makes for a longer the contact patch on launch.... this is compared to a shorter 25.6 tal tire like the 315/35R17.
2. Also the construction of the MT 275-15's is different than the 17" radials... heck there are even 2 different MT 15" 275's... the old tire and the newer "Pro" which is basically a radial slick with a DOT number.
3. Of course sidewall height means a more flexible sidewall but not nearly as flexible as a bias ply.
The 15"-275's are just more drag race oriented tires... Heck an entire cottage industy of heads up small tire drag racing has grown up around them in the past 15yrs....
That said 15" radials are not a perfect tire for a manual trans car with a street clutch. They need to be dead hooked and thats a hard thing to do with no adjustment on your clutch slippage except for the driver.... your better off than with a 17" radial but not by much. Dead hooked tire with a hard hitting clutch = broken rear end parts.
Guys with race cars going fast on these 275-15 tires use lots of computer/electronic power management stuff just to get down the track.... heck my race car has a Race Pack data aquisition system, Leash progressive nitrous controller, and the Ignition box has programable ramps so we can adjust the timing at every RPM or by time.... all this stuff operating at the same time to manage engine power application as smoothly and as quickley as possible.
You can't show up with a really high powered street car (even with an auto trans) and expect to duplicate what real racers do on those 275 radial tires.... Not that how we run our suspensions and tire pressures won't help you becasue it will... but you can't expect to go out there and go a 1.20 60ft in a real street car.
The 17" based Drag Radial tires are more of a compromise for late model street cars that occasionaly go to the track and need better rubber but can't fit 15's becasue of clearance issues with brakes or body pannels.
For a dual purpose 17" tire IMO, the Mickey Thompson 315/35r17 is the best going but it's not a real racing tire.... I have been some 1.60's in my 92 6spd with them but there has never been any consistincy there.... I have way more 1.80 60ft times than 1.60's.... It takes alot of driver skill to get the car to launch that well with having to slip the clutch and I've not able to nail it even 10% of the time I have had that car to the track....
If your really looking for time slips at the drag strip with a 6spd, then make 15" wheels/tires fit and buy a set of 26" tall bias ply tires. Make sure to launch the car so that it spins the tires a little bit and gets the car up on the tire as soon as possible.... Bias ply tires like a little slippage at the hit.... if you dead hook them you can break stuff just as easily as with a radial.
Will












