Jesus help me. What to do with 93 chip programming.
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Jesus help me. What to do with 93 chip programming.
im getting my heads/cam etc done . Im not looking forward to it at all. I feel liek selling the stupid speed density peice of %%$()*! i guess ed wright is the only answer. The shop says it can burn a chip but they want me to buy some program, no idea what theyre talkign about. I hate living in canada when it comes to this. Performance up here sucks the big one.
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Re: Jesus help me. What to do with 93 chip programming. (5abivt)
Hey man,
First off, I saw you other posts regarding switching to the 94-96 MAF. it is not worth the time. The shop by your house that said you need a scanner is on the right track and their tuning maybe just as good as doing it yourself.
When they say scanner what they mean is some type of program that can log data while the engine is running. this will take data for many parameters used to tune the ECM for the best performance. Since you have OBD1 I *think* Craig Moates software will work http://moates.net/gmecm/software.html. but if not.. there is Also DIACOM, and Ease. I know the Ease scanner will work http://www.obd2.com. So basically what the local shop will do is take data that you capture with this scannign program and adjust the parameters of your MEMCAl to be correct for your new set-up.
Another altenative is to buy the equipment and learn to do it yourself...
let me know what other questions you have
First off, I saw you other posts regarding switching to the 94-96 MAF. it is not worth the time. The shop by your house that said you need a scanner is on the right track and their tuning maybe just as good as doing it yourself.
When they say scanner what they mean is some type of program that can log data while the engine is running. this will take data for many parameters used to tune the ECM for the best performance. Since you have OBD1 I *think* Craig Moates software will work http://moates.net/gmecm/software.html. but if not.. there is Also DIACOM, and Ease. I know the Ease scanner will work http://www.obd2.com. So basically what the local shop will do is take data that you capture with this scannign program and adjust the parameters of your MEMCAl to be correct for your new set-up.
Another altenative is to buy the equipment and learn to do it yourself...
let me know what other questions you have
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St. Jude Donor '04
Re: Jesus help me. What to do with 93 chip programming. (-=Jeff=-)
When they say scanner what they mean is some type of program that can log data while the engine is running. this will take data for many parameters used to tune the ECM for the best performance. Since you have OBD1 I *think* Craig Moates software will work http://moates.net/gmecm/software.html. but if not.. there is Also DIACOM, and Ease. I know the Ease scanner will work http://www.obd2.com. So basically what the local shop will do is take data that you capture with this scannign program and adjust the parameters of your MEMCAl to be correct for your new set-up.
Another altenative is to buy the equipment and learn to do it yourself...
let me know what other questions you have
Another altenative is to buy the equipment and learn to do it yourself...
let me know what other questions you have
-Mark
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Re: Jesus help me. What to do with 93 chip programming. (MarkLT1)
thanxx for the help guys, i appreciate it. How much would you say it would cost me to do the programming myself???? what do i have to buy???? It is the shoppes lack of knowledge that frustrates me.
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Re: Jesus help me. What to do with 93 chip programming. (5abivt)
Ok.. here is what you will have to buy-
Used laptop on ebay (a P133 is more then enough) ~$100
ALDL Cable for tuning: buy one pre-made- $70-90, make it yourself- $45
Pocket Programmer (to program chips) $150
Craig Moate's ZIF adapter and a couple eeproms $56 shipped
Scanner software- Free-$200.. if you are going to buy one go with datamaster which is $90
Tunercat + 93ecm definition file- $90
All in all you are looking at between $450-$600 if you dont have a laptop already, $350-$500 if you do have a laptop. But seeing as a custom eprom from Ed Wright is $350, its not a bad deal to get all the stuff you need to program.
-Mark
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[Modified by MarkLT1, 4:01 PM 7/25/2002]
Used laptop on ebay (a P133 is more then enough) ~$100
ALDL Cable for tuning: buy one pre-made- $70-90, make it yourself- $45
Pocket Programmer (to program chips) $150
Craig Moate's ZIF adapter and a couple eeproms $56 shipped
Scanner software- Free-$200.. if you are going to buy one go with datamaster which is $90
Tunercat + 93ecm definition file- $90
All in all you are looking at between $450-$600 if you dont have a laptop already, $350-$500 if you do have a laptop. But seeing as a custom eprom from Ed Wright is $350, its not a bad deal to get all the stuff you need to program.
-Mark
[Modified by MarkLT1, 2:00 PM 7/25/2002]
[Modified by MarkLT1, 4:01 PM 7/25/2002]
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Re: Jesus help me. What to do with 93 chip programming. (MarkLT1)
Craig Macharo's ZIF adapter and a couple eeproms $56 shipped
The other thing you get by doing it yourself is the experience and being able to tweak as much as you want
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Re: Jesus help me. What to do with 93 chip programming. (-=Jeff=-)
Actually it is Craig Moates http://moates.net/gmecm/hardware.html
The other thing you get by doing it yourself is the experience and being able to tweak as much as you want
The other thing you get by doing it yourself is the experience and being able to tweak as much as you want
