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Old Aug 23, 2014 | 06:07 PM
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I picked up a Dana 36 case at Carlisle and they have a set of richmond gears in it, the numbers on the gears are 82 0692-1 F 01 8620. I was told they are 3:54's and counting the turns comes out to about that. He also gave me the ring and pinion that came out of it the numbers on it are 37355380 GM 11 37 6 75. I am trying to ID them the richmond site list a different part number. Any Thoughts.
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I picked up a Dana 36 case at Carlisle and they have a set of richmond gears in it, the numbers on the gears are 82 0692-1 F 01 8620. I was told they are 3:54's and counting the turns comes out to about that. He also gave me the ring and pinion that came out of it the numbers on it are 37355380 GM 11 37 6 75. I am trying to ID them the richmond site list a different part number. Any Thoughts.
I'd say the gear set is for a 3.36 rear and it's NOT for a D36 Corvette. There's a couple possible applications and I believe if you posted more accurate information off of the ring gear I could ID it. Post a picture of the stuff you bought.

The D36 that you bought is a 3.75 with the kit # of 49-0110-1, 82-0692-1 is the ring gear and 82-0693-1 is the pinion if you could read it. There should be 45 teeth on the ring gear and 12 on the pinion. It ain't no 3.54. Check the tooth counts and do the math. Ring gear/pinion = ratio.

I believe the ring gear number on the gear set is 3735390 and that would make it a 3.36 for a '63 or '64 by application. Is the pinion 11 tooth? Is there a number on it? Maybe 3819186 for '63 - '64. If the pinion is 3885942 its for a '65 - '79.

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Pic's of diff
Pic of Richmond gears.


Pic of GM ring and Pinion


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I believe I got it sorted while you were doing the snapshots. Is there a number on the pinion gear? Using the rest of the information from the ring gear, if this was actually a set they would be for the later '65 - '79.
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I believe I got it sorted while you were doing the snapshots. Is there a number on the pinion gear?
There is no number on the pinion just the ring. I always thought both the ring & pinion had to have numbers on them to properly be a matched set on GM gears.
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I'd say the gear set is for a 3.36 rear and it's NOT for a D36 Corvette. There's a couple possible applications and I believe if you posted more accurate information off of the ring gear I could ID it. Post a picture of the stuff you bought.

The D36 that you bought is a 3.75 with the kit # of 49-0110-1, 82-0692-1 is the ring gear and 82-0693-1 is the pinion if you could read it. There should be 45 teeth on the ring gear and 12 on the pinion. It ain't no 3.54. Check the tooth counts and do the math. Ring gear/pinion = ratio.

I believe the ring gear number on the gear set is 3735390 and that would make it a 3.36 for a '63 or '64 by application. Is the pinion 11 tooth? Is there a number on it? Maybe 3819186 for '63 - '64. If the pinion is 3885942 its for a '65 - '79.
OK the GM pinion is an 11 tooth, I was just looking at the pinion on the richmond gears that are mounted in the case and a few teeth are busted, if you turn it by hand you cant tell, I am glad I only paid $75.00 for everything. Live and learn. I really am looking for a set of 3:07's
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There is no number on the pinion just the ring. I always thought both the ring & pinion had to have numbers on them to properly be a matched set on GM gears.
No one told you it was a SET.
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No one told you it was a SET.
No he just through in the GM ring & pinion with it.
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I replaced all the bearings and seals in my diff thats in my 90 C4 over the winter at the time I was laid off and would have liked to replace the ring and pinion but did not want to spend any more money on it than I had to. The gears have 176K + on them they are 2:59's I was thinking of going to 3:07's but then the way I understand it I will need a different center section that the ring bolts to. So now I will have to determine what center section I have in the case with the bad richmond gears in it.
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I replaced all the bearings and seals in my diff thats in my 90 C4 over the winter at the time I was laid off and would have liked to replace the ring and pinion but did not want to spend any more money on it than I had to. The gears have 176K + on them they are 2:59's I was thinking of going to 3:07's but then the way I understand it I will need a different center section that the ring bolts to. So now I will have to determine what center section I have in the case with the bad richmond gears in it.
The Richmond gear is a "thick" gear so the case is the same as the case in the 2.59 you have presently BUT you need to ID the rear you bought to consider maybe it's value. On the bottom of it is there any Dana/Spicer or GM information etched into it.

The four holes where the camber brackets bolt to are drilled for either 10mm or 12mm hardware. Which are yours?

Rotate the case to a point where you may be able to read the casting information on it. Post that and maybe the case can be identified more closely.
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OK the holes for the camber bracket measure 11.30 mm with a digital caliper. On the carrier the numbers are stamped 72609 X 6 25 85 and on the bottom of the aluminum case along the gasket surface is stamped OD208AW. Also thanks for all your help.

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Also the thickness of the flange that the ring bolts to is .350 inch thick.
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I emailed Richmond gear and they said the gears I have are 2:75's and they are for the series 2 carrier. The tallest gear they offer is the 3:54 and they dont make a 3:07.
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I emailed Richmond gear and they said the gears I have are 2:75's and they are for the series 2 carrier. The tallest gear they offer is the 3:54 and they dont make a 3:07.
Your gear set is a 3.75, count the teeth and do the math. I gave you the part numbers many posts ago and also the tooth counts before you posted snapshots. Just do the math. You mentioned the pinion has busted teeth anyway so it's actually irrelevant.

Richmond makes 2 gear sets the "TALLEST" is 3.54 and the "SHORTEST" is the 3.75 that you have. Tall is smaller numerical and short is larger numerical.
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The reason I emailed Richmond was to confirm that it was a series 2 carrier so I could decide what I was going to do with it. I will probably just sit it on the shelf for now. The other GM gears that I have I will most likely give to somebody if they can yous them.
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