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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 09:38 PM
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I have a stock 88 corvette with auto trans. Car has approx 120k miles. Only drive it about 2,000 miles per year. Have never had any problems with the trans. I regularly change the fluid and filter every 2 years.
Yesterday took the car out for a short errand. It ran fine to my destination where it sat for 90 minutes.
On the return trip (approx 5 miles) the trans shifted hard into 2nd gear and would not shift into 3rd or overdrive. Reverse functions properly. Am at a complete loss as to what is wrong with the trans. Fluid is pink and fresh with no metal or band material visible on dipstick. I have owned this car for 15 years and am the only driver. My fellow corvette owner/neighbor thinks it a gummed up governor or valve body due to limited miles driven. Any other suggestions welcome. Also, would cleaning the governor and or valve body be a do it yourself project. Thanks for comments.
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 10:46 PM
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Does sound like a gov problem. Not necessarily "gummed up" but stuck. Easy fix if it is. TV cable could be a problem also. I'd check the governor first.
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by frank carlson
I have a stock 88 corvette with auto trans. Car has approx 120k miles. Only drive it about 2,000 miles per year. Have never had any problems with the trans. I regularly change the fluid and filter every 2 years.
Yesterday took the car out for a short errand. It ran fine to my destination where it sat for 90 minutes.
On the return trip (approx 5 miles) the trans shifted hard into 2nd gear and would not shift into 3rd or overdrive. Reverse functions properly. Am at a complete loss as to what is wrong with the trans. Fluid is pink and fresh with no metal or band material visible on dipstick. I have owned this car for 15 years and am the only driver. My fellow corvette owner/neighbor thinks it a gummed up governor or valve body due to limited miles driven. Any other suggestions welcome. Also, would cleaning the governor and or valve body be a do it yourself project. Thanks for comments.
Try stomping on the accelerator pedal 10 times to the floor with the engine off. This may free up a stuck TB valve. Worked for me once. Afterwards get your trans flushed and filter changed.
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 11:49 AM
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Just went through this on my 87. Had to replace the TV cable. What a job! I'm betting you have the same problem. Have you checked it for slack? There should be none. If there is, try adjusting it first. It won't work, but hey, ya never know. It's a $35 part. Got mine at Chevrolet dealership. You are in for some fun. And not in a good way. Let me know if you need help.
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by frank carlson
I have a stock 88 corvette with auto trans. Car has approx 120k miles. Only drive it about 2,000 miles per year. Have never had any problems with the trans. I regularly change the fluid and filter every 2 years.
Yesterday took the car out for a short errand. It ran fine to my destination where it sat for 90 minutes.
On the return trip (approx 5 miles) the trans shifted hard into 2nd gear and would not shift into 3rd or overdrive. Reverse functions properly. Am at a complete loss as to what is wrong with the trans. Fluid is pink and fresh with no metal or band material visible on dipstick. I have owned this car for 15 years and am the only driver. My fellow corvette owner/neighbor thinks it a gummed up governor or valve body due to limited miles driven. Any other suggestions welcome. Also, would cleaning the governor and or valve body be a do it yourself project. Thanks for comments.
You state that the Tranny doesn't shift into 3rd or OD, correct ?
That usually means the 3/4 clutch pack is dead.
This is the most common failure on the 700R4.

You did get 120Kmiles out of it.

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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 10:03 PM
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Thanks for the replies to my 700r4 issue. I plan on a TV cable adj as my first solution, then the governor. Will provide an update to the forum after I complete these steps.
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by frank carlson
Thanks for the replies to my 700r4 issue. I plan on a TV cable adj as my first solution, then the governor. Will provide an update to the forum after I complete these steps.
You do realize that to get to the governor you will need to remove the exhaust system. Same if you need to replace the TV cable. If you don't have a FSM, get one. ASAP. Do not mess with the governor without referring to it. These cars are notorious for having things break while you're working on something else.
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 12:11 AM
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If you get a 1-2 shift but not a 2-3 shift, it's not a governor problem. The governor doesn't know or care what gear the tyranny is in. If it allows a normal 1-2 shift, it's working fine. Don't waste your time there.
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 07:43 AM
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As said before a 3-4 clutch failure is a common issue for the 700r.But usually it shows debris into your pan and the oil smell as burned cafe,which seems not to be your case.a th700r4 can give you 200k miles of service,but 150k is the service life expected.Guys here may report of 250k miles unit but these are exceptions.
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by frank carlson
I have a stock 88 corvette with auto trans. Car has approx 120k miles. Only drive it about 2,000 miles per year. Have never had any problems with the trans. I regularly change the fluid and filter every 2 years.
Yesterday took the car out for a short errand. It ran fine to my destination where it sat for 90 minutes.
On the return trip (approx 5 miles) the trans shifted hard into 2nd gear and would not shift into 3rd or overdrive. Reverse functions properly. Am at a complete loss as to what is wrong with the trans. Fluid is pink and fresh with no metal or band material visible on dipstick. I have owned this car for 15 years and am the only driver. My fellow corvette owner/neighbor thinks it a gummed up governor or valve body due to limited miles driven. Any other suggestions welcome. Also, would cleaning the governor and or valve body be a do it yourself project. Thanks for comments.
When you say it won't shift into 3rd or overdrive, do you mean it stays in 2nd regardless of speed or it shifts out of 2nd and appears as if it is in neutral? Big difference. If it is the latter, then yes, your 3-4 clutch pack is probably toast. If it stays in 2nd, then there is a problem with the hydraulics. Does it do it time after time, or it only did it once and you parked it? If it does it consistantly, as 383vett says, there is nothing wrong with your governor. TV cable is the first place to start.

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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 09:21 AM
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There is a bright side to this. If you had plans to swap out your exhaust and install headers, this is the time to do it. Since the exhaust has to come off anyway. If you didn't plan on an exhaust upgrade... well, no bright side. Just lots of cussing.
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic'89
You state that the Tranny doesn't shift into 3rd or OD, correct ?
That usually means the 3/4 clutch pack is dead.
This is the most common failure on the 700R4.

You did get 120Kmiles out of it.

Vic
Yes I agree!

That's exactly what happened to my '89 and the most common tranny failure for a 700R4 in a vette. You need to rebuild your tranny.
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mako41
Yes I agree!

That's exactly what happened to my '89 and the most common tranny failure for a 700R4 in a vette. You need to rebuild your tranny.
Read my post above. Until this question is answered, we can not say difinitively that it is 3rd gear pack.
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 10:55 PM
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Curious to know how things are going with your car. Any progress?
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by scooter mcfly
You do realize that to get to the governor you will need to remove the exhaust system.
I didn't remove the exhaust system when I took my governor out.
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Cliff Harris
I didn't remove the exhaust system when I took my governor out.
Same here.

Any update on the Tranny ?

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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Cliff Harris
I didn't remove the exhaust system when I took my governor out.
How'd you manage that? Unless it's because it's on the side. Still, with the pipe right there. What's funny is the FSM says drop the exhaust for the governor, but not for the TV cable, which is impossible to get to with the exhaust there.

And I'm dyin to know what's going on with this car.
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Old Nov 22, 2014 | 08:24 AM
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Frank,

My tranny did the same thing a few months back, I went WOT no the return road and had no tranny response at all after that. It would shift through the gears at a high RPM (2500 - 3000). At cruising speed it felt as if it was never locked into gear (3-4) felt like it was slipping. Long story short, my TV cable came loose from the linkage rod which connects the TV cable to the valve in the tranny. One screw on the right side of the tranny holds the TV cable in place, remove it and you should see the linkage attached and slack in the cable up top is no good either.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 11:15 AM
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Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. Member Mcfly provided great instructions on how to adjust the TV cable. With the help of my neighbor we adjusted the cable and then drove the car. I am happy to report that the transmission is back to shifting normally again. The cable had a slight amount of slack when the gas pedal was pressed to the floor before adjustment.
After adjustment, the cable was pulled tight at the wide open position.
Again thanks for all the help.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 09:20 PM
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Glad to hear that! It's nice when a problem can be resolved with a simple fix. Pay attention to how the car shifts for a while just to make sure. Hopefully your next problem will be just as easy.
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