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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 09:25 PM
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Anyone have suggestions on what to check to get heat in this vette?

These are the things I've checked...
> Hoses are hot to heater core.
> Fan and heater control module are working.
> AC works fine but when we raise the temp no heat comes out.
> All vents do open when buttons are pressed for that particular one.
> I highly think it is a heat core just because I'm the original owner and this Vette only has 60,000 miles on it. Coolant has ben flushed many times since I've owned it.

I did read about someone saying something about a "Heater Valve" not working. But can't seem to find where that is in the GM manual I have. Is there another name that may full under?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 2cubfans
Anyone have suggestions on what to check to get heat in this vette?

These are the things I've checked...
> Hoses are hot to heater core.
> Fan and heater control module are working.
> AC works fine but when we raise the temp no heat comes out.
> All vents do open when buttons are pressed for that particular one.
> I highly think it is a heat core just because I'm the original owner and this Vette only has 60,000 miles on it. Coolant has ben flushed many times since I've owned it.

I did read about someone saying something about a "Heater Valve" not working. But can't seem to find where that is in the GM manual I have. Is there another name that may full under?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Search on "c4 no heat" and you will find a ton of suggestions (search on my posts for one answer). A common problem, that just takes time and a lot of water to solve.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 2cubfans
I did read about someone saying something about a "Heater Valve" not working. But can't seem to find where that is in the GM manual I have. Is there another name that may full under?
GM calls it a "temperature door". Most people call it a "blend door" or "temperature blend door". It changes the ratio of cold to hot air that flows through the HVAC ducts, which is where the "blend" part comes from.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 10:35 AM
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Info on flushing here:

Door actuator check info here:
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If you check the hoses after driving and the hood closed you will not get a valid test by grabbing the hose. Even a small flow of water and ambient heat will heat the hose up but will not get heat into the cabin.
There is no heater valve but only a flow restrictor. The water always flows thru the core.

I like to start the engine from cold. Before the stat opens the heater hoses should begin to get hot. They should get pretty hot before the stat opens and be the same temperature. As the stat opens and the radiator hoses get hot, the heater hoses should be as hot as your bottom hose. If all are the same temperature, then there is probably no flow restriction.

You can also remove the blower module form the top side of the evaporator and look inside to see the blend door. Set the door to 60 and then 90 and see if the door changes positions.

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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by pcolt94
If you check the hoses after driving and the hood closed you will not get a valid test by grabbing the hose. Even a small flow of water and ambient heat will heat the hose up but will not get heat into the cabin.
There is no heater valve but only a flow restrictor. The water always flows thru the core.

You can also remove the blower module form the top side of the evaporator and look inside to see the blend door. Set the door to 60 and then 90 and see if the door changes positions.
Usually if a heater core is completely plugged, the outlet hose will be significantly colder than the inlet. If there is minor flow, you will get decent heat for the first few seconds of the fan blowing, then it will cool down. What the OP is describing sounds like the blend door not working right.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by atgordon
Info on flushing here:

Door actuator check info here:
Originally Posted by 2cubfans
Anyone have suggestions on what to check to get heat in this vette?

These are the things I've checked...
> Hoses are hot to heater core.
> Fan and heater control module are working.
> AC works fine but when we raise the temp no heat comes out.
> All vents do open when buttons are pressed for that particular one.
> I highly think it is a heat core just because I'm the original owner and this Vette only has 60,000 miles on it. Coolant has ben flushed many times since I've owned it.

I did read about someone saying something about a "Heater Valve" not working. But can't seem to find where that is in the GM manual I have. Is there another name that may full under?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Look at Eckler's part #51595 ($100) to see a elec motor for A/C / heater temp control valve. In most modern autos this "blends" the heater core side and A/C side in the heater box to give you the temp air you dialed in.
A quick check is provided to you by atgordon yesterday (1/5/15) and other info from Cliff Harris showing this blending damper door. from under the hood, just remove the small plate with a wiring harness at the top of the heater box (he posted a photo) and see if this damper door will move when you change the settings from extreme A/C to full 90 degree heat. If yours is like mine, it will not move and allow air to flow through the heater core and give you heat.
If the damper door is stuck, then look at and probably replace the #51595 elec motor which is inside the car right above your passenger's feet. Look at other posts and mine (john6277) to see how you remove the fuse panel covers to access the knee pad under the dash - be careful as this piece has plastic tabs in the front that are probably quite brittle.
This is really a pretty simple check and fix in less than an careful hour of time. Have fun John
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 02:39 PM
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I may have missed this..

Did you flush the heater core with a garden hose?
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If it's your heater core, have fun. I did mine about two months ago. It took me about 12-14 hours total from dragging the tools out to putting them away. Never, ever again.
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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by john6277
Look at Eckler's part #51595 ($100) to see a elec motor for A/C / heater temp control valve. In most modern autos this "blends" the heater core side and A/C side in the heater box to give you the temp air you dialed in.
A quick check is provided to you by atgordon yesterday (1/5/15) and other info from Cliff Harris showing this blending damper door. from under the hood, just remove the small plate with a wiring harness at the top of the heater box (he posted a photo) and see if this damper door will move when you change the settings from extreme A/C to full 90 degree heat. If yours is like mine, it will not move and allow air to flow through the heater core and give you heat.
If the damper door is stuck, then look at and probably replace the #51595 elec motor which is inside the car right above your passenger's feet. Look at other posts and mine (john6277) to see how you remove the fuse panel covers to access the knee pad under the dash - be careful as this piece has plastic tabs in the front that are probably quite brittle.

This is really a pretty simple check and fix in less than an careful hour of time. Have fun John
Ok solved the issue.....
Turns out the blending door was working fine, then went to flushing the heater core that took care of the problem.

Couldn't believe this was the issue since we flush this system every 4 to 5 years and the corvette only has 60,000 miles on it.

Guess you learn something new all the time.

Thanks for everyones help.
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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 2cubfans
Ok solved the issue.....
Turns out the blending door was working fine, then went to flushing the heater core that took care of the problem.

Couldn't believe this was the issue since we flush this system every 4 to 5 years and the corvette only has 60,000 miles on it.

Guess you learn something new all the time.

Thanks for everyones help.
Coolant should be done every 2 years especially on a older engine regardless of mileage. That why I replace my coolant and heater flush at least every 2 years. I have been doing this for the last 10 years since I had the same no heat problem.

I don't think my car had good care before I got it which may contribute to this condition.
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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 09:04 PM
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Glad you got her fixed!
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